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Gagnut
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:14 pm
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 846 Location: Ames, Iowa
That one is pretty good, I have one in my deck.
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Takeo
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:34 pm
Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 123 Location: Hidden in FBI's basement
Stand Against Darkness, best anti sauron ever!
Merrick_Hale
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:32 pm
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
Yeah, but it is only anti-Sauron. I’d much rather have a generic toolbox card like Sleep Caradhras, Secret Sentinels, Grown Suddenly Tall, or Roll of Thunder than one that only works against Sauron.
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:06 pm
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Yeah, but it doesn’t kill Sauron either. Stand against darkness is pretty good when Sauron comes into the game. Twisted Evil
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Merrick_Hale
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:44 pm
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
No it doesn’t, but again for card efficiency, I’d rather pack cards that are more widely useful than cards that are situational at best. Now if there were a widely splashed Sauron minion, possession or condition, I might be tempted to play a copy since it becomes more efficient. However since the Sauron culture has been historically pretty bad (outside of besiegers and Grind) and there are more efficient decks than both of those, I don’t think I would play with the card.
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corvus
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:53 am
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Merrick_Hale wrote:
However since the Sauron culture has been historically pretty bad

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Trackers have been feared by ALL during the first age. They even used the hobbit anti-tracker condition.
Merrick_Hale wrote:
(outside of besiegers and Grind)

Many of our players didn’t even bother to make ’em during the 7th age.
Merrick_Hale wrote:
and there are more efficient decks than both of those, I don’t think I would play with the card.

Just for the record, my mentor who has been playing elves since the dawn of the game, used to keep a copy of the card in the deck until the rotation.
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Merrick_Hale
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:44 am
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
Trackers only got decent after Grishnakh Orc Captain came out with under the watching eye, Orc Bowmen, and Hate. The other sauron trackers really couldn’t do much against fellowships as they cost too much and weren’t able to add enough wounds to be able to slow down any fellowship that had decent healing or throw away companions (as most did since uruks were huge for so long). In any competitive environment, particularly in fellowship block Sauron was not played much since they were roaming until site 6, had weak minions and other minion strategies worked much more consistently with the same weaknesses - Moria had Swarm; Isengard had outside of skirmish wounding, Damage bonuses and fierce; Dunland had good possession removal; Easterlings just got beastly and could corrupt, Southrons had archery etc. Most people (and I’m not nocking anyone here) wound up playing with the generic discard cards because they worked more broadly until besiegers were all the rage.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:11 pm
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you are forgetting sauron discard corruption paired with dwarven discard. NPE and pain.
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Merrick_Hale
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:29 pm
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
I’m not forgetting them. I played them for a while, but they were too conditional... Condition removal destroys them and that can be accomplished with the more generic cards like Sleep Caradhras, Grown Suddenly Tall and Secret Sentinels which discard multiple conditions rather than the one that Stand Against darkness removes.
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