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menace64
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:42 am
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Wichita, Kansas
Felipe Musco wrote:

I tried to fix Orc Slaughterís game text, check if itís better now.


Perfect.

I want to see Green! I want to see Green!
Felipe Musco
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:19 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Iíll have to get through Black first! Very Happy
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physcosick
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:22 pm
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Location:
Iíve always seen the hobbits and the rest of the fellowship as White creatures and even the abilities you gave the hobbits are fit more for the White side of the color pie. Where as green would be the elves and the Treefolk, etc. Black and red wonít be defined much since Orc is either or. The giant spider would prolly be GB. Iím just throwing out ideas at this point. You easily have all the lands you could need. The artifacts are rather simple, as well.
Felipe Musco
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:58 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Wow, you actually dropped by! Thanks. Yes, the hobbits are giving me quite a headache... They are stealthy, therefore "evasive" creatures, so they could either be Green or White. And I want to decide that before I get to those colors. Why exactly do you think they oughta be White?
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physcosick
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:08 pm
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Location:
Because they are simple, noble, honorable, loyal people. They come from a common town, not a forest. They take on an adeventure against Evil.

Not to mention your card ability choices. There was one that you could sac to prevent damage, thats a fog ability... fog is white. There is another that gives your creatures +1/+1 which is also an ability given primarily to white (ie Glorious Anthem)

Green should be elves and Treefolk and thats about it
Felipe Musco
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:24 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Yeah, I think you had me convinced, although Iím pretty sure the card Fog itself is Green. Wink
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physcosick
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:30 pm
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Location:
yeah but notice it hasnt seen print in a long time it has been moved to white: holy day, brace for impact, chain of silence, chant of vitu-ghazi, ethereal haze, hallow, story circle, circle of protection (lands, red, artifacts, blue, white, black, and red).

I could name more but i think that works.... if you notice, you only could name one green card with the Fog ability... i decided to stop after 14. And also, all of those cards are recent cards that have been printed over the last fog or any green fog card has not seen print in over 5+ years.
Felipe Musco
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:12 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Applause Thatís why I asked you to drop by! Point proven, Hobbits will be White, alongside Men. ANd what did you think of the other cards? (especially the newer ones, more organized?)
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physcosick
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:55 pm
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 229 Location:
Iím going to be editting this post for every other card

Felipe Musco wrote:

Dain Ironfoot, King Under the Mountain 2RedRed
Legendary Creature ē Dwarf Lord
Haste.
Dainís power and toughness are each equal to the number of Mountains you control.
Sacrifice a Mountain: Target Dwarf gains haste until the end of the turn.
*/*

This shouldnít have haste, you should have to sac a mountain to give him haste

Defiling Grounds 2Red
Instant
Destroy target tapped land. If that land was tapped for mana this turn, it adds no mana to its controllerís mana pool.

What you want this card to do is illegal. You can not respond to mana abilities, and by the time you are able to respond, the mana has already been used to play a spell. Plus instant LD is insanely good.. too good.


Delving 1Red
Instant
Target creature deals combat damage as though it werenít blocked this turn.

the ability "Target creature deals combat damage as though it werenít blocked this turn." has been moved to the Green Color Pie (Rhox, Tornado Elemental, etc).




Dwarven Armory 1 Red
Enchantment ē Aura
Enchanted creature gets +2/+0 and is a Dwarf, in addition to its other types.


Dwarven Warrior 1Red
Creature ē Dwarf Warrior
2/2

Hereís a suggestion I like A LOT:
Dwarven Warrior 1R
creature Dwarf Warrior
Dwarvin Warrior canít block
Dwarvin Warrior can not attack unless you played a Dwarf creature this turn.
3/3



Fiery Deeps of Moria Red
Instant
Add Red to your mana pool for each Mountain you control above 3.

Wording is really weird

Fires of Mount Doom 2Red
sorcery
Remove target artifact from the game. If that artifact was a ring, search its ownerís hand, library and graveyard for all copies of that ring and remove them from the game. That player shuffles his or her library afterwards.


Fireworks 1Red
sorcery
Fireworks deals 3 damage, divided any way you choose, among any number of target creatures or players.


Goblin Armory Red
Enchantment ē Aura
Enchanted creature is a Goblin in addition to its other types, and gains: "Sacrifice this creature: it deals 1 damage to target creature or player".
Sacrifice Goblin Armory: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target Goblin this turn.

I donít like the prevent damage clause



Goblin Drums XRedRed
instant
Put X 1/1 red Goblin tokens with haste into play. Sacrifice those tokens at the end of the turn.


Hail of Flaming Arrows Red
sorcery
Hail of Arrows deals 3 damage to target creature.


Orc Ransacker 3Red
Creature ē Orc
When you play Orc Ransacker, you may destroy target artifact.
Sacrifice Orc Ransacker: Destroy target artifact.
Sacrifice Orc Ransacker: Destroy target enchantment.
1/1

Quick Shot 1Red
Instant
Quickshot deals 3 damage to target tapped creature. If that creature was tapped for mana this turn, it adds no mana to its controllerís mana pool.

Again, illegal timing and doesnít work


Felipe Musco wrote:


Narsil 4
Legendary Artifact ē Equipment
Narsil can only equip a white creature.
Equipped creature gets +6/+1 and gains trample.
Equip 5

Athelas GreenWhite
Instant
Prevent all combat damage dealt by target source. You gain that much life.

Kingsfoil XWhiteWhite
Sorcery
Prevent X damage that would be dealt to target player or target creature this turn. You may search your library for up to X Hobbits, reveal them, and put them in your hand.

Fog and hobbits are white... made the "X" more useful



Felipe Musco wrote:
Written By the Hobbits 3White
Enchantment
1: Prevent all damage dealt by target source to target Hobbit.

Bill the Pony 4Green
Legendary Creature ē Pony
Bill, the Pony gets +1/+1 for each Hobbit in play.
As long as you control Sam, Bill, the Pony has: "Green: Regenerate".
1/3

Hobbitís Stealth White
Instant
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn.



Heavy Burden 1
Artifact Instant (NEW CONCEPT!!!)
Sacrifice Heavy Burden: Destroy target Ring.



Rangers of the North 2White
Sorcery
Untap all creatures you control and draw a card. Draw a card at the beggining of next turnís upkeep.

Drawn by the Power BlueBlackRed
Enchant Creature
You control enchanted creature.
If you donít control a Ring, sacrifice it.
Felipe Musco
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:29 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Wow, thanks for the review! Let me answer it:

physcosick wrote:
Iím going to be editting this post for every other card

Felipe Musco wrote:

Dain Ironfoot, King Under the Mountain 2RedRed
Legendary Creature ē Dwarf Lord
Haste.
Dainís power and toughness are each equal to the number of Mountains you control.
Sacrifice a Mountain: Target Dwarf gains haste until the end of the turn.
*/*

This shouldnít have haste, you should have to sac a mountain to give him haste

Nice suggestion, Iíll change it.

Defiling Grounds 2Red
Instant
Destroy target tapped land. If that land was tapped for mana this turn, it adds no mana to its controllerís mana pool.

What you want this card to do is illegal. You can not respond to mana abilities, and by the time you are able to respond, the mana has already been used to play a spell. Plus instant LD is insanely good.. too good.


Actually, itís not illegal if a card clearly states it is possible. Thatís the reason I made this card rare, it IS supposed to ben the rules this way. Iíll try to fix the wording, though. And, in order for this to work the intended way, it HAS to be an instant. I think Iíll raise the cost, though.

Delving 1Red
Instant
Target creature deals combat damage as though it werenít blocked this turn.

the ability "Target creature deals combat damage as though it werenít blocked this turn." has been moved to the Green Color Pie (Rhox, Tornado Elemental, etc).


Maybe I should just say "canít be blocked"... Thanks for the reminder!

Dwarven Armory 1 Red
Enchantment ē Aura
Enchanted creature gets +2/+0 and is a Dwarf, in addition to its other types.

Fixed!

Dwarven Warrior 1Red
Creature ē Dwarf Warrior
2/2

Hereís a suggestion I like A LOT:
Dwarven Warrior 1R
creature Dwarf Warrior
Dwarvin Warrior canít block
Dwarvin Warrior can not attack unless you played a Dwarf creature this turn.
3/3


Cool, I liked it!

Fiery Deeps of Moria Red
Instant
Add Red to your mana pool for each Mountain you control above 3.

Wording is really weird

Yeah, it was. Fixed now, I think.

Fires of Mount Doom 2Red
sorcery
Remove target artifact from the game. If that artifact was a ring, search its ownerís hand, library and graveyard for all copies of that ring and remove them from the game. That player shuffles his or her library afterwards.

I liked it better as an instant, so itís different from similar cards. After all, it IS fairly more limited.

Fireworks 1Red
sorcery
Fireworks deals 3 damage, divided any way you choose, among any number of target creatures or players.

Itís rare for that reason. Otherwise, it would just be a fairly improved Voltaic Lightning, which sucks. I may raise the cost, though... But I donít know if itís THAT much better than Incinerate or Lightning Bolt.

Goblin Armory Red
Enchantment ē Aura
Enchanted creature is a Goblin in addition to its other types, and gains: "Sacrifice this creature: it deals 1 damage to target creature or player".
Sacrifice Goblin Armory: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target Goblin this turn.

I donít like the prevent damage clause


Thatís a flavor to the actual LotR card. Otherwise, it wouldnít be included at all, is just doesnít fit.


Goblin Drums XRedRed
instant
Put X 1/1 red Goblin tokens with haste into play. Sacrifice those tokens at the end of the turn.

Iíd have to make it rare, then. I think itís more balanced this way, being uncommon and all. But I may do something similar in other color... Think

Hail of Flaming Arrows Red
sorcery
Hail of Arrows deals 3 damage to target creature.

I thought Lava Spike was an instant. Thanks for pointing this out, fixed now!

Orc Ransacker 3Red
Creature ē Orc
When you play Orc Ransacker, you may destroy target artifact.
Sacrifice Orc Ransacker: Destroy target artifact.
Sacrifice Orc Ransacker: Destroy target enchantment.
1/1

I want the player to be able to use both abilities. But I changed it to sac an Orc.

Quick Shot 1Red
Instant
Quickshot deals 3 damage to target tapped creature. If that creature was tapped for mana this turn, it adds no mana to its controllerís mana pool.

Again, illegal timing and doesnít work


Again, itís as I said before, itís only illegal until a card states itís not. But Iíll fix the wording, too.

Felipe Musco wrote:


Narsil 4
Legendary Artifact ē Equipment
Narsil can only equip a white creature.
Equipped creature gets +6/+1 and gains trample.
Equip 5

Athelas GreenWhite
Instant
Prevent all combat damage dealt by target source. You gain that much life.

Kingsfoil XWhiteWhite
Sorcery
Prevent X damage that would be dealt to target player or target creature this turn. You may search your library for up to X Hobbits, reveal them, and put them in your hand.

Fog and hobbits are white... made the "X" more useful



Felipe Musco wrote:
Written By the Hobbits 3White
Enchantment
1: Prevent all damage dealt by target source to target Hobbit.

Bill the Pony 4Green
Legendary Creature ē Pony
Bill, the Pony gets +1/+1 for each Hobbit in play.
As long as you control Sam, Bill, the Pony has: "Green: Regenerate".
1/3

Hobbitís Stealth White
Instant
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn.



Heavy Burden 1
Artifact Instant (NEW CONCEPT!!!)
Sacrifice Heavy Burden: Destroy target Ring.



Rangers of the North 2White
Sorcery
Untap all creatures you control and draw a card. Draw a card at the beggining of next turnís upkeep.

Drawn by the Power BlueBlackRed
Enchant Creature
You control enchanted creature.
If you donít control a Ring, sacrifice it.


Since these last cards are no longer part of my "Expansion", I wonít bother correcting them now. Maybe I can "re-edit" them later, corrected.
Thanks for the review, really useful!
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