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| AnxiousChieftain |
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DáinIronfoot wrote:  Goblin Tunneler 
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
While at an underground site, this minion is strength +2.
Shadow: While at a mountain, discard this minion to make the current site an underground site.
“They can tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble....”
Cool. Should ’while’ be ’if’ though?
DáinIronfoot wrote:  Goblin Forger
Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Shadow: Exert this minion to play a possession from your draw deck or discard pile.
“Hammers, axes, swords, daggers, pickaxes, tongs, and also instruments of torture, they make very well, or get other people to make to their design, prisoners and slaves that have to work till they die for want of air and light.”
Ooh, nice. Very powerful, but his higher cost and low strength probably balance him out. And actually, maybe you should limit it to draw deck, since already has a good minion that can play weapons from the discard pile (Goblin Scavengers).
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:37 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Okay, I THINK I’ve awarded GPs to all reviewers now. Let me know if I missed you!
I think we’re ready for more cards! 
Dáin’s DC Duos #101
An actual Duo this time...just two cards. Nothing ground-breaking today: just a couple little goblins. Enjoy!
Goblin Tunneler
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
While at an underground site, this minion is strength +2.
Shadow: While at a mountain, discard this minion to make the current site an underground site.
“They can tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble....”
Ouch. Rather powerful. For , you can now play The Balrog, Durin’s Bane at a mountain.
Goblin Forger
Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Shadow: Exert this minion to play a possession from your draw deck or discard pile.
“Hammers, axes, swords, daggers, pickaxes, tongs, and also instruments of torture, they make very well, or get other people to make to their design, prisoners and slaves that have to work till they die for want of air and light.”
See AC’s comment. Maybe 5 strength? |
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| sickofpalantirs |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Okay, I THINK I’ve awarded GPs to all reviewers now. Let me know if I missed you!
I think we’re ready for more cards!
Dáin’s DC Duos #101
An actual Duo this time...just two cards. Nothing ground-breaking today: just a couple little goblins. Enjoy!
Goblin Tunneler
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
While at an underground site, this minion is strength +2.
Shadow: While at a mountain, discard this minion to make the current site an underground site.
“They can tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble....”
gain underground.
Goblin Forger
Minion • Orc
Strength: 4
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Shadow: Exert this minion to play a possession from your draw deck or discard pile.
“Hammers, axes, swords, daggers, pickaxes, tongs, and also instruments of torture, they make very well, or get other people to make to their design, prisoners and slaves that have to work till they die for want of air and light.”
its twilight cost i -1. IMO |
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:03 pm |
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Took your suggestions to heart (and awarded a  for AC, as this was his first review in the thread). Thanks, guys!
One more for tonight. 
Dáin’s DC Duos #102
Here’s a couple simple weapons for the Goblin Forger to grab. Enjoy!
Bent Sword
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him to exert a character in that skirmish.
Goblin blades are as deadly as they are crude.
Heavy Spear
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
Archery: Discard this possession to make the minion archery total +1.
Though not very accurate, goblins spears are devastating when they hit their intended targets. |
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| Anonymous Prodigy |
![]() Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:23 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Bent Sword
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him to exert a character in that skirmish.
Goblin blades are as deadly as they are crude.
Nicely done.
DáinIronfoot wrote: Heavy Spear
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
Archery: Discard this possession to make the minion archery total +1.
Though not very accurate, goblins spears are devastating when they hit their intended targets.
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:00 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote:
 • Great Goblin, Truly Tremendous One
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Fierce. Lurker.
To play, spot a Orc.
Each time a Orc wins a skirmish, you may exert Great Goblin twice to capture a character in that skirmish.
“‘Murderers and elf-friends!...Take them away to dark holes full of snakes, and never let them see the light again!’”
I like it. it’s definitely balanced with the spotting requirement, win of skirmish, and unique.
 Hobgoblin
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Tracker. Enduring. Fierce.
To play, spot a Orc.
“‘...right among the slopes of the Grey Mountains, and they are simply stiff with goblins, hobgoblins, and rest of the worst description.’”
i’m not i fan of having fierce for any orc. only the cave troll and balrog. i do like the enduring.
• Goblin Captain
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Damage +1. Fierce.
Orcs are fierce.
“‘There is a shadow by the door. Something is outside!’”
again, i don’t like the fierce right of the bat, it is better as a special ability that requires something in order to work. i mean, the whole point of moria is to swarm, and then make them all fierce, you need way less the number of minions to swarm. and the swarming capabilities of are outstanding. plus fierce doesn’t seem to fit the character of goblins. more of an Uruk thing. i’m fine with fierce as a special ability.
Goblin-Driver
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
This minion is strength +1 for each captured character in your support area.
“‘Swish, smack! Whip crack! / Batter and beat! Yammer and bleat! / Work, work! Nor dare to shirk....’”
Great!
Goblin Rider
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site: 5
Tracker. Hunter 1.
When you play this minion, you may discard a card from hand to play a mount on it from your draw deck.
“...already their cries and howls rent the air afar.”
first i would make it vitality 1. are you going to have warg mounts? the wild warg is a minion. i think it would be a good idea to have no warg mounts, and just keep them minions. the wargs were strong allies with the orcs, but there are already 2 warg-riding culture, it would be good to make them minions.
Wild Warg
Minion • Warg
Strength: 10
Vitality: 3
Site: 3
Tracker.
To play, spot 2 minions (or a Warg). This minion may not bear possessions.
Response: If this minion takes a wound, it is fierce until the regroup phase.
“The Wargs and the goblins often helped one another in wicked deeds.”
i like it. wargs ARE fierce. so, good ability.
 Clever Things
Event • Shadow
Exert your Orc to play a machine or engine from your draw deck.
“...they invented some of the machines that have since troubled the world, especially the ingenious devices for killing large numbers of people at once, for wheels and engines and explosions always delighted them....”
ok? it’s tough to know if this is good or not without the other cards.
Goblin-Raid
Event • Maneuver
Search.
Spot X Orcs to make X Wargs (or X mounted Orcs) strength +1 until the regroup phase.
“...even the Wargs dared not attack them if there were many together, or in the bright day. But now they had planned with the goblins’ help to come by night upon some of the villages nearest the mountains.”
yeah, i think that’s good.
Out Of The Frying-Pan, Into The Fire
Event • Response
If a companion wins or cancels a skirmish involving a minion, you may exert your unassigned Orc or Warg to assign it that companion.
“‘Escaping goblins to be caught by wolves!’”
heheh. nice.
• Spread In Secret
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot two threats.
While the fellowship is at a mountain or underground site, the twilight cost of each of your Orcs is -1 (to a minimum of 1).
“Out jumped the goblins, big goblins, great ugly-looking goblins, lots of goblins, before you could say rocks and blocks.”
cool!
Goblin Tunneler
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
While at an underground site, this minion is strength +2.
Shadow: If at a mountain, discard this minion to make the current site gain underground.
“They can tunnel and mine as well as any but the most skilled dwarves, when they take the trouble....”
sweet!
Goblin Forger
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
Shadow: Exert this minion to play a possession from your draw deck.
“Hammers, axes, swords, daggers, pickaxes, tongs, and also instruments of torture, they make very well, or get other people to make to their design, prisoners and slaves that have to work till they die for want of air and light.”
yeah, i think that’s good.
Bent Sword
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him to exert a character in that skirmish.
Goblin blades are as deadly as they are crude.
cool! works well with the enduring minions.
Heavy Spear
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
Archery: Discard this possession to make the minion archery total +1.
Though not very accurate, goblins spears are devastating when they hit their intended targets.
maybe make it strength +1, but i’m not quite sure.
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| DáinIronfoot |
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macheteman wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: • Goblin Captain
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Damage +1. Fierce.
Orcs are fierce.
“‘There is a shadow by the door. Something is outside!’”
again, i don’t like the fierce right of the bat, it is better as a special ability that requires something in order to work. i mean, the whole point of moria is to swarm, and then make them all fierce, you need way less the number of minions to swarm. and the swarming capabilities of are outstanding. plus fierce doesn’t seem to fit the character of goblins. more of an Uruk thing. i’m fine with fierce as a special ability.
Duly noted. I didn’t do it lightly. But since other minions like Advance Regular (for  Orcs), Voice of the Desert, Southron Troop (for  Men), and many Dunlendings and cards like Legions of Morgul wide-spread fierceness, I figured that even though they’re awesome at swarming, deserved to get in on the action as well.
How about I make it a LITTLE more conditional, though: like this.
•Goblin Captain
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site: 4
Damage +1. Fierce.
Each Orc at a mountain or underground site is fierce.
“‘There is a shadow by the door. Something is outside!’”
Still pretty easy to trigger, since you really want at underground (or at least mountain) sites anyway, but at least it’s a little less universal. The other option I could limit it by region, like with Voice of the Desert, Southron Troop.
Besides, if you’re able to kill the Captain off, the ability is gone anyway. With 3 vitality, that isn’t TOO hard.
I hear, understand, and appreciate what you’re saying. But I think I can do something like this without breaking the culture, and the lack of other comments like yours leads me to think others agree.
macheteman wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: Goblin Rider
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site: 5
Tracker. Hunter 1.
When you play this minion, you may discard a card from hand to play a mount on it from your draw deck.
“...already their cries and howls rent the air afar.”
I disagree. In The Hobbit, the Wargs/wolves and goblins have a very close relationship. Goblins are clearly described as riding wolves several times in the novel. I’m not going to go crazy with this and make a whole Warg-riding subculture, but I think it deserves to have a little piece with it.
Also, I’d prefer to leave his vitality where it is, since mounts don’t give the big vitality boosts that other Warg mounts do. However, what I think I WILL do is change his ability to exert him rather than discard a card.
macheteman wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: Clever Things
Event • Shadow
Exert your Orc to play a machine or engine from your draw deck.
“...they invented some of the machines that have since troubled the world, especially the ingenious devices for killing large numbers of people at once, for wheels and engines and explosions always delighted them....”
Right now, it’s use is actually limited to splashing with and  . I don’t have any machines or engines made right now...at least, not for Lasting Alliances. I’m working on changing that, though, since the idea seems pretty popular with you and other reviewers.
macheteman wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: Bent Sword
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you may exert him to exert a character in that skirmish.
Goblin blades are as deadly as they are crude.
Exactly! When I first made this, it only exerted a FP character. Then I thought ’why not allow it to exert itself, too?’
macheteman wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: Heavy Spear
Possession • Hand Weapon
Strength +2
Bearer must be a Orc.
Archery: Discard this possession to make the minion archery total +1.
Though not very accurate, goblins spears are devastating when they hit their intended targets.
I’d rather stick with the "norm" of strength +2 for weapons.
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| DáinIronfoot |
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Dáin’s DC Duos #103
Just a couple very simple--almost boring--goblins for now. Hey, any good culture is going to be full of minions like this, right? Hopefully these can quick get reviewed and we can move on. Enjoy!
Goblin Gnasher
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
Fierce.
“They make no beautiful things, but they make many clever ones.”
Goblin Slasher
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While bearing a hand weapon, this minion is damage +1.
“‘Clash, crash! Crush, smash!’” |
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:33 pm; edited 2 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones
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| Anonymous Prodigy |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Goblin Gnasher
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
Fierce.
“They make no beautiful things, but they make many clever ones.”
Good.
DáinIronfoot wrote: Goblin Slasher
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While bearing a hand weapon, this minion is damage +1.
“‘Clash, crash! Crush, smash!’”
Similar to Goblin Spearman, but still nice. |
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| macheteman |
![]() Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:58 am |
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DáinIronfoot wrote:
i like the fierce when it must be triggered by something else, so i like the underground deal a lot.
i still think that since the wargs were so important that it would be best to have them not be ride-able. they weren’t really possessions in the hobbit. and it would be unique and cool to be different from the two other warg strategies. right now it just seems like there will be 3 cultures that do the same stuff. with wargs as a fighting force, you will have something interesting.
anyway, your call. just my two dollars.
Goblin Gnasher
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 1
Site: 4
Fierce.
“They make no beautiful things, but they make many clever ones.”
heheh.
Goblin Slasher
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 4
While bearing a hand weapon, this minion is damage +1.
“‘Clash, crash! Crush, smash!’”
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