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lem0nhead
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:09 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Ok so is anyone else noticing a general "rushed" theme to T&D i.e. bugger all playtesting?

Here is a list of stuff that needs Dís attention.

Ted Sandyman, Chiefís Menís Ally

Reason: Come on, stacking him on a lembas bread? Stupid.

Errata: Stack him on a Men possession. (or shadow support area possession)

Harry Goatleaf

Reason: Heís unique but heís not.

Errata: Make him flippin unique!!!

Ranger Of The North

Reason: Whats the point in making a man defender plus 1 for the maneuver phase?

Errata: Make it last until the regroup!

Pull Of The Ring

Reason: Hunter will only last for that phase.

Errata: Needs until the regroup phase adding.

Faramir

Reason: Broken loop with stewards legacy.

Errata: Make him heal ANOTHER companion.

Sti ng Of Shelob (silly auto link!)

Reason; You can spot the RB to negate the effect of having to discard a companion.

Errata: Not be able to spot the RB.

White Hand Attacker

Reason: Same name as an uruk in RoS so you cant have 4 of this guy and 4 of the RoS guy in your deck.

Errata: Change his name.

Whisper in the Dark

Reason: You cant play cards on followers and its not culturally enforced.

Errata: Needs a CRD clarification and/or Errata.

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Orc Culture

*Grond, Forged With Black Steel

Possession - Support Area

To play, spot an <orc> minion.
Each time the fellowship moves in the regroup phase, you may discard this possession to search the Free Peoples playerís draw deck and remove up to 2 Free Peoples cards from the game.

Reason: You can remove cards from the game that arent in the deck but ar in play.

Errata: Make it 2 revealed cards...

There are also gameplay issues D need to clear up, but as im lazy i wont retype Anvarís D Thread but just link it here.

If ive missed anything post it and ill update. Cheers

Section of brokeness:

Gothmog
Frenzy Of Arrows
The Faithful Stone
Elven Armaments
Erkenbrandís Shield
Destroyers and Ursurpers
Perspective
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BattleWarg
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:49 am
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 579 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
Ted Sandyman, Chiefís Menís Ally

Reason: Come on, stacking him on a lembas bread? Stupid.

Errata: Stack him on a Men possession.

Iím going to disagree on this one. Men and Gollum in particular seem to be working on teaming up, and this could be used for that. My suggestion for errata would be:

"Stack a Men Man on your possession" - still allows for some, but youíre either stacking on support area possession or itíll be discarded anyway.
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:40 am
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
Elven Armaments doesnít need any changing. Itís perfectly balanced.
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lem0nhead
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:44 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Hmm opinion is going to count considerably here Bib, as ive seen many people disagree with you. So ill add a comment on the cards where theres no definate problem. Anyone got a new card to add thats not a disagreement with one on the list?
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:57 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
lem0nhead wrote:
The Faithful Stone

Reason: Many reasons, its OP and broken its non unique and its not culturally enforced. This is opinionated though.

Possible Errata: X it or change it completely.


Itís culturally enforced. Or at least, limited to men. Which I guess is any deck with the Isildur RB. It needs unique.
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Gartax
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:59 pm
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so far i agree with your list good job i would add gild galad but that is me
bibfortuna25
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:12 pm
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
The thing with Elven Armaments is that Men archery already has a way to discard it: Mumak Rider. Men archery is currently the only Shadow archery build worth playing in Standard. Plus, Armaments is a good card to counter the Gothmog/Frenzy of Arrows stuff.
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:08 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
Sting of Shelob needs a wording change to prevent the Freeps player from choosing the RB as one of the companions. Check my suggestion in the thread.

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raptor22
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:45 pm
Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 196 Location:
Why donít you limit your comments to cards that actually need eratta to work, like Pull of the Ring?

Or at least seperate them into two catagories (Bad Text and Overpowered).

For example, I donít have a problem with White Hand Marshall.
menace64
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:51 pm
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Wichita, Kansas
NBarden wrote:
lem0nhead wrote:
The Faithful Stone

Reason: Many reasons, its OP and broken its non unique and its not culturally enforced. This is opinionated though.

Possible Errata: X it or change it completely.


Itís culturally enforced. Or at least, limited to men. Which I guess is any deck with the Isildur RB. It needs unique.


Racially enforced is not the same as culturally enforced. TFS will work with *any* Man, companion or minion (or ally if youíre brave). This, in my opinion, is a perfectly splashable card if thereís even a hint of Men in the meta.
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