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How playable is Destroyers And Usurpers?
5 (Best) |
[ 6 ] 42% |
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4 |
[ 1 ] 7% |
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3 |
[ 1 ] 7% |
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2 |
[ 2 ] 14% |
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1 (Worst) |
[ 4 ] 28% |
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AragornDoFP |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:32 pm |
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They should have made this a condition that plays on a companion. That companion loses defender bonuses. At least then Gondor has Anduril to give it a fighting chance. |
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Anonymous Prodigy |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:38 pm |
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Decipher, this is bad. Real bad.
The playability gets it a 5. The balanced-ness gets it a -34. |
I had to put something here. |
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menace64 |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:39 pm |
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Anonymous Prodigy wrote: Decipher, this is bad. Real bad.
The playability gets it a 5. The balanced-ness gets it a -34.
I think we need to start including an Absolute Zero option for voting on cards that are "very good but very broken". |
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DáinIronfoot |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:40 pm |
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raptor22 wrote: Yeah, even Frenzy of Arrows cost needs to spot an minion.
Okay, Raptor. NOW I think it’s appropriate to try this again. Ahem!
Dear Decipher,
I am writing to ask if you have heard of the once-important concept your predecessors (who seemed to have much better play-testers and grammar skills) called "cultural enforcement". It is where you build into a card some manner of keeping that card from being "splashed" in with any culture, and instead forcing it to be played with other cards of that card’s culture. (Ref. cards like Goblin Domain, Goaded to War, Coordinated Effort, and more appropriately, Trapped and Alone, A Blended Race, Take Up the Bow, and Hemmed In.) This prevents such cards from being overpowered, and having, say, Destroyers And Usurpers thrown in with ANY Shadow deck and completely negating defender bonuses from EVER being used by ANY companion against ANY Shadow culture.
I would kindly request that you fire all of your play-testers, hire some people who actually care about the game, and then remove yourselves from office before you run this game into the ground.
Oh, and fire whoever designed cards like Destroyers And Usurpers twice, just for good measure. A good noogie may be in order as well.
Thank you.
menace64 wrote: I think we need to start including an Absolute Zero option for voting on cards that are "very good but very broken".
Brilliant! |
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Dravius |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:50 pm |
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I voted 1 because any swarm deck from any culture can run 2-3 of those for just 1 twilight...
Cultural enforcement anyone?? |
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AnxiousChieftain |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:20 pm |
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Gosh, even I could design better cards than this. I actually hope that this is the last LOTR set if the future sets would look like T&D. |
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raptor22 |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:38 pm |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Okay, Raptor. NOW I think it’s appropriate to try this again. Ahem!
Dear Decipher,
I am writing to ask if you have heard of the once-important concept your predecessors (who seemed to have much better play-testers and grammar skills) called "cultural enforcement". It is where you build into a card some manner of keeping that card from being "splashed" in with any culture, and instead forcing it to be played with other cards of that card’s culture. (Ref. cards like Goblin Domain, Goaded to War, Coordinated Effort, and more appropriately, Trapped and Alone, A Blended Race, Take Up the Bow, and Hemmed In.) This prevents such cards from being overpowered, and having, say, Destroyers And Usurpers thrown in with ANY Shadow deck and completely negating defender bonuses from EVER being used by ANY companion against ANY Shadow culture.
I would kindly request that you fire all of your play-testers, hire some people who actually care about the game, and then remove yourselves from office before you run this game into the ground.
Oh, and fire whoever designed cards like Destroyers And Usurpers twice, just for good measure. A good noogie may be in order as well.
Thank you.
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Anvar |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:46 pm |
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And this card explains why I will not be buying of Treachery and Deceit. Sure, I’ll pick up some of the funkier singles but as a whole this set is awful. Really awful.
I just hope that some new designers are brought on for the next set, and that the designers LISTEN to playtesters.
I will not be buying any boxes of T&D and I have bought at least a box of every set since Siege of Gondor. I’ll pick up the odd single at Cobracards, but this set has made me want to quit LotR.
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BattleWarg |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:59 pm |
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Anonymous Prodigy wrote: The playability gets it a 5. The balanced-ness gets it a -34.
I’ll disagree.
Playability gets it a 6 at least.
And I (like at least one other) am calling this the first single card that I can truly call broken. Combos, yes, but not a single card.
With the culture, it gets better. At least Deceit is culturally enforced... Otherwise this would get at least an 8 for playability. |
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Piecesofeight |
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:08 pm |
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Note: Even though this has no cultural enforcement I would not say it is broken and I will not use it in any of my decks, including swarm decks. |
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