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How playable is Destroyers And Usurpers?
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[ 6 ] 42% |
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[ 1 ] 7% |
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[ 1 ] 7% |
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[ 2 ] 14% |
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[ 4 ] 28% |
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DáinIronfoot |
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:44 am |
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Anvar wrote: Having spoken with some of the Star Trek playtesters, it sounds like Decipher simply doesn’t listen to them. I wouldn’t be surprised if these cards were tested but that the reccommended changes were not made. Of course, I could be wrong.
That’s seriously messed up.
I agree with NB’s suggestion...not that that would ever happen. |
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Apopatos |
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:53 pm |
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Well I can hardly say broken a card that affects only one or two cultures, since defender bonuses are used by Gondor and Rohan only. After all Rohan has now Fall back to helm’s deep and also gain bonuses if the ringbearer is assigned to a skirmish. Now about Gondor, they can destroy every special ability and discard minion before the skirmish phase. Also, I find this card a serious counter against The faithful stone . With one per three minions useless (and maybe more if you reinforce tokens) I doubt the freeps players will need defender bonuses anymore!
Now, for about not being culturally enforced isn’t a a big deal since The Faithful Stone isn’t too and also when you pack one or even four copies of Destroyers And Usurpers in your Uruk-Hai deck for example and you play against an elven or dwarven deck which doesn’t use defender at all then your only success is to gain some useless cards in your deck, cards that could be minions in other cases. Not a big deal finally.
The second part of the card isn’t as great as Suffered much loss anyway! |
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sickofpalantirs |
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:54 pm |
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PorterTroll |
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:15 pm |
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lem0nhead wrote: Ok ill stick my neck out first and say Broken. For gods sake Decipher. Who plays defender plus 1.... Gondor.... Who has no condition removal.... Gondor.
Hey, you could always take your chances with Catapult. |
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Apopatos |
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:56 am |
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PorterTroll wrote: lem0nhead wrote: Ok ill stick my neck out first and say Broken. For gods sake Decipher. Who plays defender plus 1.... Gondor.... Who has no condition removal.... Gondor.
Hey, you could always take your chances with Catapult.
Naah, with the faithful stone you don’t need defender bonuses anymore... |
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TheShyzle |
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:42 pm |
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raptor22 |
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:45 pm |
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TheShyzle wrote: I don’t see the big problem with this card. If you are not playing against someone who has def +1 companions then it is basically worthless.
The problem is ABSOULUTLY NO cultural enforcement, so it can go into EVERY deck and no one can ever play defender +1 again. |
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Apopatos |
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:06 pm |
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raptor22 wrote: TheShyzle wrote: I don’t see the big problem with this card. If you are not playing against someone who has def +1 companions then it is basically worthless.
The problem is ABSOULUTLY NO cultural enforcement, so it can go into EVERY deck and no one can ever play defender +1 again.
Yes, but if happens to play against a dwarven or elven or hobbit deck that does not use defender bonuses at all then your only success is some useless cards in your deck which in other case could be minions. Absolutely a disadvantage.
That card has a cultural enforcement at its second part and only there is needed badly!
After all lets say that the defender bonus thing worked only for [orc]. What if we had a different similar card for the other races as well? Would it be a problem then? |
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raptor22 |
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:33 pm |
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Apopatos wrote: That card has a cultural enforcement at its second part and only there is needed badly!
Actually, the second part is highly inferior to suffered much loss.
Apopatos wrote: After all lets say that the defender bonus thing worked only for [orc]. What if we had a different similar card for the other races as well? Would it be a problem then?
The biggest problem I have with this is that it removes the defender bonuses without any cost, and it’s not unique, so you can 4 in play if you want. |
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Apopatos |
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:29 pm |
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raptor22 wrote: The problem is ABSOULUTLY NO cultural enforcement, so it can go into EVERY deck and no one can ever play defender +1 again.
raptor22 wrote: The biggest problem I have with this is that it removes the defender bonuses without any cost, and it’s not unique
Can’t you be a bit more clear man?
What is the real problem finally? |
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