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| Anvar |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:27 pm |
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Grond wasn’t the card I saw at the TOC, I saw Watcher at Sarn Ford (or whatever his name was). Unfortunately, I didn’t memorise his stats or abilities but I recall he was Unique and had resistance 8, as well as a nice combat ability.
Hopefully it will be spoiled soon.
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:58 pm |
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| raptor22 |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:33 pm |
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| Uh, Grond only works when the FP moves in the regroup and then it discards its self. Sorry, but I really don’t see how this card is worse than the old Grond. |
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| tcreese |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:35 pm |
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Just use Forced March, and bingo - instant companion removal from play (and more minions to play for the double move). Very, very nasty...
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:36 pm |
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| Anvar |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:51 pm |
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I think we all know that the new Grond does not in fact remove cards in play from the game. The card needs an errata because it could be abused as printed, but it is obvious what the intent of it is. If anyone tried to remove my companions in play from the game with this card I would refuse to play them.
As printed, it’s a funky card, with an effect we haven’t seen before in LotR. It makes you rethink how you build FP decks. I know that I often put in single copies of important companions or posessions, because I only ever need one in play. Grond makes you think about putting in more copies, or risk losing important pieces of your combo.
I like it muchly.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:56 pm |
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Anvar wrote: I think we all know that the new Grond does not in fact remove cards in play from the game. The card needs an errata because it could be abused as printed, but it is obvious what the intent of it is. If anyone tried to remove my companions in play from the game with this card I would refuse to play them.
As printed, it’s a funky card, with an effect we haven’t seen before in LotR. It makes you rethink how you build FP decks. I know that I often put in single copies of important companions or posessions, because I only ever need one in play. Grond makes you think about putting in more copies, or risk losing important pieces of your combo.
I like it muchly.
Don’t get me wrong, I also think it’s a really neat card, and like the original Grond, one that changes the way the game is played (in a good way). I also like that about it. I just think one little word could have made a HUGE difference in the text, and leaving that word out is a big no-no and will surely be abused by people that are less...scrupulous than you and I.  |
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| AdultLink |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:11 pm |
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raptor22 wrote: Uh, Grond only works when the FP moves in the regroup and then it discards its self. Sorry, but I really don’t see how this card is worse than the old Grond.
Uh, thank you!!!!
At this point people are so scared that they can’t make a good freeps or that their shadow’s can’t get the job done that they want every stinkin good orc card x-listed so that the orc culture is a pitiful piece of crap. I realize the overpoweredness of the cutlure presently, but of course something will be restricted or r-listed soon, the set hasn’t even come out, nothing’s going to happen yet obviously! |
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| AnxiousChieftain |
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| If Grond works the way that it’s supposed to, I think it’s a very balanced card. People need to stop screaming for X-listing of it and instead just ask for a clarification in the CRD stating that it works only on cards in their draw deck. |
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| Merrick_Hale |
![]() Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:29 pm |
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| This would require an erratum. Decipher doesn’t issue errata on cards any more. Basically two thirds of the thus far revealed cards would require errata in order to be playable or not completely broken. Really honestly and truly pathetic game design. |
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have yet another card that’s slightly broken. Oh look, your condition discarding cards are gone from your deck, now I can GOBLIN HORDES YOU TO DEATH! Oh look, your Elven Armaments are gone from your deck, now I can FRENZY of Arrows YOU TO DEATH! 