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Which approach do we take for this card? (see page 3 for details on the voting)

Leave it  
7%
  [ 1 ]  7%
 
X it  
46%
  [ 6 ]  46%
 
Change it  
46%
  [ 6 ]  46%
 

Total Votes : 13
AnxiousChieftain
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:51 am
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 3947 Location: Maryland
Queleri’s idea is the only errata I really like, but I would prefer for it to be X-ed in Standard and either X-ed or R-ed in Expanded.

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NBarden
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:18 am
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X it.
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Thranduil
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:10 pm
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There’s little point in going through this process if we’re just going to end up X-ing the cards. The whole idea is that we try and rescue cards to make the game more interesting and to remove brokenness.

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:14 pm
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I like Queleri’s idea.
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PorterTroll
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:17 pm
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D should definitely X this card in standard play and R it in expanded, as for open, I don’t play it so I couldn’t care less what they do with it there.
Foresight
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:22 pm
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Just add: "Discard this condition." as the last sentence. That would fix the whole card right there. Makes them add 2 threats, it only lasts one site, and it’s gone after usage. That right there would make it a whole heck of a lot more balanced than "have it on the table when needed".
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:26 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
but then you could still use it 4 times, and recur it with on your doorstep.
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Foresight
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:30 pm
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Which would actually cost deckspace, unlike "Oh, one card, all special abilities problems solved!"
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:46 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
yes, but still it would eliminate all abilities. for say 8 sites
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PorterTroll
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:58 pm
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 1193 Location: not sure yet
It’s an ace in the hole card that completely disarms every shadow side (even archery since it takes place in the maneuver) and only downside is two threats. Yes, many minion cultures can add threats, but Gandalf can remove them. The fact is, even using the effect of this card only three or four times in a game can COMPLETELY screw over a well planned out shadow strike.

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