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elf lvr
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:52 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Olorin wrote:

There is no need to give Galadriel RB such a strong card...

A three strength Ring-bearer. I think she could use a little help.

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it is an artifact - how should I discard it... the elves have already so much Artifacts for the support area...

Look at Gondor, buddy. They got way more.

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with this card, Galadriel canít be corrupted (res. +2)

Galadriel starts with 3 resistance (while she can spot herself, 4). Whereas Gondor R-bís get 6 to start and have Scroll of Isildur.

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Galadriel + Silver Ewer + Celebring + The one Ring (9r+??) = with this cards, Galadriel ist Strength 8 (3+2+2+1) until the end of the turn...

Isildur has 13 while whipping around Narsil. Not to mention with certain Armors, horses, brands, and bows he could have 18. Not counting however much the Ring gives.

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and if you play attunement, which can easily make her Strength +10 Galadriel overwhelms some Nazgul...

My friend runs an Aragorn-Elendil-Isildur deck. He gets Flaming Brand on Isildur and he kills any nazgul heís assigned to every site. Whereas attunement needs a major setup to do that.

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and she has at the average (5 comps, Silver Ewer, Asfaloth) Resistance 11

Isildur with Ring of Rings and Scroll could have 11. Besides, who puts Asfaloth on Galadriel?

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In addition to that, each time you play an Skirmish event, you may reinforc a token!!

This is simply what it takes to get Elven tokens Teir 1. Do you want me to have to use Hearth and Hall all my life?

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Iíve never seen such a broken card like that!

Look at the Faithful Stone. THATís what broken looks like.

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if you place 2 cards with Nenya, Ring of Adamant on the top of your draw deck and there are already 2 elven cards on the top you can also exert Elrond, Witness of History to place 2 elven cards from the discard pile on the top of your draw deck. and if you play still needed (you may place in on the top of your draw deck, when you play it), you have at least 2+2+2+1 = 7 elven cards on the top: this means, you may make Galadriel Strength + 16!

At the cost of two Elven cards (probably events by the time the maneuver pahse rolls around), two exertions on a companion (Elrond) it seems sorta fair to me. With the 2 cards and 2 wounds any other deck could do just about the same, I bet. And if youíre lucky enough to have two Elven cards on the top all the time, run elves all the time because itís hard for me to get even one (there is a 50% chance, give or take depending on how the gameís gone, that the top card will be freeps or shadow. Two in a row is even less).

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and if you are lucky and you got Sauron on the top of your draw deck and you discard Vilya, you may make a minion strength - 18! ... So Galadriel is Strength 18 + 16 = 34!!

Besides Gandalf, Manager of Wizards thereís about a 4/60 (reduced to 1/15) chance that a card you have 4 copies of will pop up at the top of your deck. More of a chance depending on hand size and card draws, but you get the point. Who uses Sauron, anyways?

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perhaps the whole Elven culture is a broken culture! Think We MUST BAN this card!!!

Go Ban the whole Orc culture. Itís more broken than this a thousand times over.

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2.) Frenzy Arrows (at least errata)
this card should be r-listed or needs an errata!

I agree with the errata here.

sickofpalantirs wrote:
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:
Hey, Iím all for banning the Elves! Razz


seconded Wink


BLASPHEMERS! HERETICS! BURN THEM AT THE STAKE!

You guys hurt my feelings.
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OneFathom
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:16 pm
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 426 Location:
What about the new Gil-Galad and Ancient Blade?? Take a look at my comment on the Gil-Galad spoiler...
Olorin
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:23 am
Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 5 Location:
Oh my god, Iím too late! The Elves got you! Laughing
Youíre right, Gondor has got many Artifacts; but no one is such powerful than the Artifacts of the Elves. by the way, have you ever played against a strong Elven-Deck? They are so hard to kill (and I think, I got a very strong shadow site), an then they get so strong cards, I canít understand!
Iíve been playing against strong knights, rangers, rohan and shire - but no one is so tough than the Elves.

Iíve to apologize for my bad english - Iím from Austria (central Europe) - I hope you wonít mind...
Do anyone of you speak German? in this case, you should visit "www.nine-walkers.de" - thatís a platform like this...
Does anyone of you participate on the european LOTR TCG championship in Berlin?
Foresight
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:59 am
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 557 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Olorin wrote:
Oh my god, Iím too late! The Elves got you! Laughing
Youíre right, Gondor has got many Artifacts; but no one is such powerful than the Artifacts of the Elves. by the way, have you ever played against a strong Elven-Deck? They are so hard to kill (and I think, I got a very strong shadow site), an then they get so strong cards, I canít understand!
Iíve been playing against strong knights, rangers, rohan and shire - but no one is so tough than the Elves.


I gotta agree with you on this one, the Elves are very hard to beat when they get set up! But so are Gondor knights, a Durin III deck, a good Shire deck, ect. The Elves have strength reduction going for them, which really is a lot more powerful than giving them a strength boost like the rest of the cultures. It increases chances of overwhelming! I canít tell you how many games Iíve lost against an Elladan/Elrohir deck because of those strength reductions! Or Arwen, Staunch Defender in a deck that also has sitepath manipulation forest nazgul. Those forest Elves are hard to contend with, no doubt about it!
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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:17 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
elf lvr wrote:
sickofpalantirs wrote:
CarpeGuitarrem wrote:
Hey, Iím all for banning the Elves! Razz


seconded Wink


BLASPHEMERS! HERETICS! BURN THEM AT THE STAKE!

You guys hurt my feelings.

Laughing How did I know that was coming?
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:28 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
I never said anything about banning elf lvrs Wink
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elf lvr
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:04 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
OneFathom wrote:
What about the new Gil-Galad and Ancient Blade?? Take a look at my comment on the Gil-Galad spoiler...

Wow, I didnít notice that combo. Yeah, that regroup ability is pretty bad... too abusable.

Olorin wrote:
Oh my god, Iím too late! The Elves got you! Laughing
Youíre right, Gondor has got many Artifacts; but no one is such powerful than the Artifacts of the Elves. by the way, have you ever played against a strong Elven-Deck? They are so hard to kill (and I think, I got a very strong shadow site), an then they get so strong cards, I canít understand!
Iíve been playing against strong knights, rangers, rohan and shire - but no one is so tough than the Elves.


I disagree. Every good fellowship ought to be impossible to beat down once it gets set up. Look at Shire cancelling decks, Dwarf token or strength decks, Knights, Three Hunters... If you really want to beat elves, pull a corruption deck. They have no burden removal! Except for Elf-Song in expanded. Youíve just got to know how to get at them. Corsairs who pack Fierce in Despair, why, they can get an elf brother and game over! Smack down an Ugluk with Violent hurl early game, and you have a shot at killing one easily! You just have to take them the right way, as with any deck.
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Glamdring
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:24 pm
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 575 Location:
Yeah, every deck has a weakness.... You just have to exploit it.
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Merrick_Hale
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:00 am
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 445 Location: Austin, Texas
Glamdring wrote:
Yeah, every deck has a weakness.... You just have to exploit it.
Kind of like rock really doesnít like paper and paper doesnít really like scissors and scissors really donít like rock?
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:20 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Merrick_Hale wrote:
Glamdring wrote:
Yeah, every deck has a weakness.... You just have to exploit it.
Kind of like rock really doesnít like paper and paper doesnít really like scissors and scissors really donít like rock?


uh sure. except it generally isnít that easy Wink
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