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| LeoKula |
![]() Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:27 am |
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Hey guys, here’s a question I’ve never seen answered.
If there are no skirmishes, can I heal companions with Citadel of Minas Tirith? People keep telling me no, but for me, no skirmishes means no skirmishes lost. |
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| AnxiousChieftain |
![]() Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:51 am |
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You are correct. If no skirmishes occur during the turn, you didn’t lose any skirmish; and thus the healing text triggers.
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:37 pm |
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| Glamdring |
![]() Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:53 pm |
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NBarden wrote: That’s why the card rocks with Ithilien Blade.
Sweet. I never thought of it that way, but so...yeah, citadel of minas tirith works that way. |
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| spartiatis |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:53 am |
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Heh , you remind me of a funny predicament when i was still young, years ago and i had almost come to blows with a tournament director who did not mean to understand this simple ruling. He wanted to deny me this use for the Citadel, thus shutting down my deck.
Well, partially i can’t blame him. It is infuriating to see the opponent exert his companions to kill all the minions and then heal them completely  |
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:08 am |
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| That’s also a major drawback to cards like Still Twitching and Brought Down from Inside from Age’s End. You can never lose any skirmish with a bearer of those conditions, and yet still have them discarded just because you didn’t skirmish at all in a turn! |
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| LeoKula |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:47 am |
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spartiatis wrote: Heh , you remind me of a funny predicament when i was still young, years ago and i had almost come to blows with a tournament director who did not mean to understand this simple ruling. He wanted to deny me this use for the Citadel, thus shutting down my deck.
Well, partially i can’t blame him. It is infuriating to see the opponent exert his companions to kill all the minions and then heal them completely
Yeah, other judges told me that you can’t heal with Citadel even if there were no skirmishes ... glad you guys see it like I do 
By the way, Where now the Horse has a similar wording... can you use it just for discarding (since it doesn’t require frodo to be skirmishing) and don’t discard the companion you spotted? |
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| menace64 |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:41 am |
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The only cost on the card is to spot a  companion. If Frodo either loses the skirmish or isn’t in play at all, the companion is discarded.
But (and I think this is what you’re getting at) an argument can be made that Frodo not skirmishing at all is different than Frodo losing a skirmish. In this particular case, though, I’d go with the first scenario. |
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| LeoKula |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:37 pm |
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menace64 wrote: The only cost on the card is to spot a companion. If Frodo either loses the skirmish or isn’t in play at all, the companion is discarded.
But (and I think this is what you’re getting at) an argument can be made that Frodo not skirmishing at all is different than Frodo losing a skirmish. In this particular case, though, I’d go with the first scenario.
Yeah you got it. If he didn’t skirmish, he didn’t lose. If the card said "If Frodo does not win", then I would have to discard because he didn’t skirmish so he didn’t win, but the card says "If Frodo loses" and he didn’t lose. |
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| Anautikus |
![]() Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:19 pm |
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| If he didn’t skirmish, why play the card? |
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