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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:37 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
2 Dwarfish Hearts Dwarven
Event • Maneuver
Add a threat and spot 3 Dwarves to discard an artifact or possession.
... when the heart of a dwarf, even the most respectable, is wakened by gold and by jewels, he grows suddenly bold and he may become fierce.
H2 R 7

I think "Dwarven Hearts" sounds a lot better.

Thranduil wrote:
2 Messenger Raven Dwarven
Follower
Str: +1
Aid - add a threat.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
Bearer is damage +1.
As they worked the ravens brought them constant tidings.
H2 C 21

I agree with SoP: muster would work a LOT better.

Thranduil wrote:
2 Raven of Erebor Dwarven
Follower
Str: +1
Aid - add a threat.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
When this follower is transferred to a Dwarf, you may make an opponent choose to discard 2 cards from their hand or 5 cards from the top of their draw deck.
’There used to be great friendship between [the ravens] and the people of Thror...’
H2 U 27

"Each time" instead of "when". Maybe 4 cards for the latter part.

Thranduil wrote:
1 • Roac, Son of Carc Dwarven
Follower
Str: +2
Aid - add a threat.
To play, spot a Dwarf.
When Roac is transferred, you may draw a card.
’We are few, but we remember still the king that was of old.’
H2 R 29

"Each time" again. I like it, though perhaps +1 strength and +1 resistance would be better.
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Thranduil
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:16 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Muster isn’t a keyword I’m using in my set, but I’ve given him something similar and made some other "tweaks".

Better now?

Thranduil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:41 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
I think it’s funny how I’ve made "tweak" such a popular word around these parts. I guess I didn’t realize how much I said it until lem0n and others started using it all the time themselves. Razz Anyway....

The changes are good, though I still have the same comment about the title of Dwarvish Hearts and I think ability for Messenger Raven would be better as a skirmish ability. Might just be me, though. *shrug*
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Thranduil
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:01 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Changed the ability to the skirmish phase. Thanks all.

Now that you guys have seen a statement of the Gandalf Men strategy, let’s take a peak at the Dwarven cards that are around to support it:

4 • Dain Ironfoot, Lord of the Iron Hills Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 9
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to make a Dwarf or Gandalf Man strength +1.
There now Dain son of Nain took up his abode, and he became King under the Mountain...
H2 R 3

3 Dwarf Warrior Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
While you can spot a Dwarf, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
While you have exactly 4 cards in hand, this companion is strength +2.
... each of them also had a short broad sword at his side and a round-shield slung at his back.
H2 C 10

2 • Great Days of Old Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a unique Dwarf.
Each time your hand size drops below 4 cards, you may spot a Gandalf Man and a Dwarf to add +1 to the fellowship archery total until the regroup phase.
Each time you Unlock a Dwarven card, you may make a Gandalf Man damage +1 until the regroup phase.
H2 U 15

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:10 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Thranduil wrote:
Changed the ability to the skirmish phase. Thanks all.

Now that you guys have seen a statement of the Gandalf Men strategy, let’s take a peak at the Dwarven cards that are around to support it:

4 • Dain Ironfoot, Lord of the Iron Hills Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 9
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to make a Dwarf or Gandalf Man strength +1.
There now Dain son of Nain took up his abode, and he became King under the Mountain...
H2 R 3

+2, IMO.

3 Dwarf Warrior Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
While you can spot a Dwarf, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
While you have exactly 4 cards in hand, this companion is strength +2 and damage +1.
... each of them also had a short broad sword at his side and a round-shield slung at his back.
H2 C 10

Nice. Start with the damage and make it just +2.

2 • Great Days of Old Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a unique Dwarf.
Each time your hand size drops below 4 cards, you may spot a Gandalf Man to make a Dwarf an archer until the regroup phase.
Each time you Unlock a Dwarven card, you may make a Gandalf Man damage +1 until the regroup phase.
H2 U 15

Lose initiative?

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Thranduil
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:14 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
You’re exactly right about the initiative thing, but I decided that I didn’t want to use the term as most of the strategy does not revolve around 4 cards and I didn’t want to use any out-of-block keywords.

I will change the veteran, but wait for a few more reviews of Dain Ironfoot before I change him.

Thranduil
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:36 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:

4 • Dain Ironfoot, Lord of the Iron Hills Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 9
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to make a Dwarf or Gandalf Man strength +1.
There now Dain son of Nain took up his abode, and he became King under the Mountain...
H2 R 3
I guess. maybe up cost 1.

3 Dwarf Warrior Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
While you can spot a Dwarf, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
While you have exactly 4 cards in hand, this companion is strength +2.
... each of them also had a short broad sword at his side and a round-shield slung at his back.
H2 C 10
! nice

2 • Great Days of Old Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a unique Dwarf.
Each time your hand size drops below 4 cards, you may spot a Gandalf Man to make a Dwarf an archer until the regroup phase.
Each time you Unlock a Dwarven card, you may make a Gandalf Man damage +1 until the regroup phase.
H2 U 15

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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:25 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
Changed the ability to the skirmish phase. Thanks all.

Now that you guys have seen a statement of the Gandalf Men strategy, let’s take a peak at the Dwarven cards that are around to support it:

4 • Dain Ironfoot, Lord of the Iron Hills Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 9
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to make a Dwarf or Gandalf Man strength +1.
There now Dain son of Nain took up his abode, and he became King under the Mountain...
H2 R 3

Erm 9 strength for 4? Hmmm. Ok cos his gametext is rather weak.

3 Dwarf Warrior Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Damage +1.
While you can spot a Dwarf, this companion’s twilight cost is -1.
While you have exactly 4 cards in hand, this companion is strength +2.
... each of them also had a short broad sword at his side and a round-shield slung at his back.
H2 C 10

Ok.

2 • Great Days of Old Dwarven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot a unique Dwarf.
Each time your hand size drops below 4 cards, you may spot a Gandalf Man to make a Dwarf an archer until the regroup phase.
Each time you Unlock a Dwarven card, you may make a Gandalf Man damage +1 until the regroup phase.
H2 U 15

Why must u insist on giving the most none-archery race archery? Dwarves shouldnt shoot stuff anymore than elves should be damage +1 or gondor having burden removal! If it was something other than archer i could get onboard and it would be a cool card.

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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:37 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
Erm 9 strength for 4? Hmmm. Ok cos his gametext is rather weak.

He has the same stats as Glorfindel. I’m not sure I understood your point - do you want me to make his ability better?

lem0nhead wrote:
Why must u insist on giving the most none-archery race archery? Dwarves shouldnt shoot stuff anymore than elves should be damage +1 or gondor having burden removal! If it was something other than archer i could get onboard and it would be a cool card.

I put it in because archery is one of the sub-themes of the Gandalf Men and this whole set is based on multi-cultural strategies. Archery is something that Dwarves don’t have (and I’ve given them nothing apart from this card) and so it’s on the card because it’s something the Lakemen can offer them. Likewise with damage bonuses, the Lakemen simply don’t have them. If you really have a serious problem with this card and others agree, I will happily change it, but I’d like to see another review first.

Thranduil
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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:39 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
You got me there Thran, Glorfindel does have those stats, but i think dwarves are hard enough anyway without matching the only insanely strong companion for 4. Look at ellessar telcontar. Costs 5. But like i said Dain’s ability isnt very good so he’s balanced.

Somebody say they agree with me, that cultures have their strong points and their weak points and you shouldnt mess with that! Dwarves arent archers. Simple as.
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"Smart guy, especially considering his head is filled with lemon juice and seeds. That boy’s juicy brain is FULL of good stuff" ~ DainIronfoot
"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer

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