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Thranduil
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:13 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Well, it looks like we’ve finished off the Lakemen, but there is still one Gandalf Man that remains unaccounted for, who is big and brown and is often a bear.

Just to remind you, here is Beorn from the last set (there are no more version of him in block):

4 • Beorn, Agreeable Host Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Damage +1. Defender +1.
Fellowship:
If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn to remove 1 (or exert him twice at a dwelling to remove 3).
’... and you must be careful not to annoy him, or heaven knows what will happen.’
H1 C 89

4 • Beorn, Skin-Changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Skirmish: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn make him strength +5 (limit +10) and damage +1. Until the end of the regroup phase, he is not a Man.
’... sometimes he is a huge black bear, sometimes he is a great strong black haired man with huge arms and a great beard.’
H1 R 90

Now here is some development on first the choking strategy:

1 • Bee-Pastures Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Beorn.
When you play this condition, you may add X Gandalf tokens here, where X is 9 minus the number of companions.
Response: If you are about to play a Gandalf event, remove a token here (or discard this card) to make that event’s twilight cost -1.
H2 R 56

2 • Master of the Wide Wooden Halls Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves and you cannot spot 4 companions, you may spot Beorn and add 1 to heal each companion.
Regroup: Exert Beorn or discard this condition to remove 3.
Beorn said something to them in a queer language like animal noises turned into talk...
H2 R 77

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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:02 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:

4 • Beorn, Agreeable Host Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Damage +1.
Fellowship:
If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn to remove 1 (or exert him twice at a dwelling to remove 3).
’... and you must be careful not to annoy him, or heaven knows what will happen.’
H1 C 89
maybe to remove 4 at a dwelling

4 • Beorn, Skin-Changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Skirmish: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn make him strength +5 (limit +10) and damage +1. Until the end of the regroup phase, he is not a Man.
’... sometimes he is a huge black bear, sometimes he is a great strong black haired man with huge arms and a great beard.’
H1 R 90
Aweshome. maybe a defender instead of damage...

1 • Bee-Pastures Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Beorn.
When you play this condition, you may add X Gandalf tokens here, where X is 9 minus the number of companions.
Response: If you are about to play a Gandalf event, remove a token here (or discard this card) to make that event’s twilight cost -1.
H2 R 56
I like it

2 • Master of the Wide Wooden Halls Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves and you cannot spot 4 companions, you may spot Beorn to heal each companion.
Regroup: Exert Beorn or discard this condition to remove 2.
Beorn said something to them in a queer language like animal noises turned into talk...
H2 R 77

the regroup ability should be remove 3 IMHO
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lem0nhead
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:46 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
Well, it looks like we’ve finished off the Lakemen, but there is still one Gandalf Man that remains unaccounted for, who is big and brown and is often a bear.

You mean Bungle from Rainbow? Razz

4 • Beorn, Agreeable Host Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Damage +1.
Fellowship:
If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn to remove 1 (or exert him twice at a dwelling to remove 3).
’... and you must be careful not to annoy him, or heaven knows what will happen.’
H1 C 89

Really not every useful. Good stats and all but lame text, you need site control to make it worthwhile.

4 • Beorn, Skin-Changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Skirmish: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn make him strength +5 (limit +10) and damage +1. Until the end of the regroup phase, he is not a Man.
’... sometimes he is a huge black bear, sometimes he is a great strong black haired man with huge arms and a great beard.’
H1 R 90

Sound.


1 • Bee-Pastures Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Beorn.
When you play this condition, you may add X Gandalf tokens here, where X is 9 minus the number of companions.
Response: If you are about to play a Gandalf event, remove a token here (or discard this card) to make that event’s twilight cost -1.
H2 R 56

Reinforcing makes this card too awesome.

2 • Master of the Wide Wooden Halls Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves and you cannot spot 4 companions, you may spot Beorn to heal each companion.
Regroup: Exert Beorn or discard this condition to remove 2.
Beorn said something to them in a queer language like animal noises turned into talk...
H2 R 77

Hmmm even though its only 3 companions its still awesome. Maybe heal each unbound companion.

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Thranduil
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:06 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
I’d really like another review or two before I move on. Anyone want to pitch in?

Thranduil
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:16 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Thranduil wrote:
Well, it looks like we’ve finished off the Lakemen, but there is still one Gandalf Man that remains unaccounted for, who is big and brown and is often a bear.

Just to remind you, here is Beorn from the last set (there are no more version of him in block):

4 • Beorn, Agreeable Host Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Damage +1. Defender +1.
Fellowship:
If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn to remove 1 (or exert him twice at a dwelling to remove 3).
’... and you must be careful not to annoy him, or heaven knows what will happen.’
H1 C 89

4 • Beorn, Skin-Changer Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 8
Skirmish: If you cannot spot 4 companions, exert Beorn make him strength +5 (limit +10) and damage +1. Until the end of the regroup phase, he is not a Man.
’... sometimes he is a huge black bear, sometimes he is a great strong black haired man with huge arms and a great beard.’
H1 R 90

THAT is a DC worthy of Beorn. Homage

Now here is some development on first the choking strategy:

1 • Bee-Pastures Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot Beorn. Tokens on this condition cannot be reinforced.
When you play this condition, you may add X Gandalf tokens here, where X is 9 minus the number of companions.
Response: If you are about to play a Gandalf event, remove a token here (or discard this card) to make that event’s twilight cost -1.
H2 R 56

Interesting. I think that letting them be reinforced is okay.

2 • Master of the Wide Wooden Halls Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves and you cannot spot 4 companions, you may spot Beorn and add 1 to heal each companion.
Regroup: Exert Beorn or discard this condition to remove 3.
Beorn said something to them in a queer language like animal noises turned into talk...
H2 R 77

Nice.

Thranduil


Sweet cards. I’m trying to get back into reviewing, but what with college and everything...

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Thranduil
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:47 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Thanks all.

Just to remind you of the other major Beorn card from the first set:

2 • Beorn’s Axe Gandalf
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +3
Bearer must be Beorn.
He is terror 1 (each time he is assigned to a skirmish an opponent’s minion, you make that opponent exert their character) for each wound on him.
He was clothed in a tunic of wool down to his knees, and was leaning on a large axe.
H1 R 92

Now onto some more cards from this set:

0 Bear Tracks Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Beorn who is either terror X, damage +X or defender +X.
Make a Gandalf Man (or any character is you cannot spot 4 companions) strength +X.
’I soon saw that Beorn could not have made them all...’
H2 C 55

0 Well Protected Gandalf
Event • Assignment
Spot Beorn to make a minion fierce until the regroup phase. Then, you may prevent that minion from being assigned to a non-fierce skirmish.
’The goblins,’ Beorn had said, ’will not dare to cross the Great River for a hundred miles north of the Carrock nor to come near my house...’
H2 C 86

3 Great Animal Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
Exert Beorn and remove a minion from your discard pile from the game to make Beorn strength +X, where X is that minion’s strength.
... Bilbo thought he saw away to the right, or to the left, the shadowy form of a great bear prowling along in the same direction.
H2 R 64

Thranduil
Last edited by Thranduil on Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:59 am; edited 2 times in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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lem0nhead
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:26 pm
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
Thanks all.

Just to remind you of the other major Beorn card from the first set:

2 • Beorn’s Axe Gandalf
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +3
Bearer must be Beorn.
He is terror 1 (each time he is assigned to a skirmish an opponent’s minion, you make that opponent exert their character) for each wound on him.
He was clothed in a tunic of wool down to his knees, and was leaning on a large axe.
H1 R 92

Gees thats almost a guaranteed exhaustion of minons, which is a bit too good surely? Least its unique unlike the other one.

Now onto some more cards from this set:

0 Bear Tracks Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Beorn who is one of terror X, damage +X or defender +X.
Make a Gandalf Man (or any character is you cannot spot 4 companions) strength +X.
’I soon saw that Beorn could not have made them all...’
H2 C 55

Badly worded. Id say "either" not one of. Cool.

0 Well Protected Gandalf
Event • Assignment
Spot Beorn to make a non-fierce minion fierce until the regroup phase. Then, you may prevent that minion from being assigned to a non-fierce skirmish.
’The goblins,’ Beorn had said, ’will not dare to cross the Great River for a hundred miles north of the Carrock nor to come near my house...’
H2 C 86

Thats weird. Im sure it has its uses but at the moment looks pointless use of deck space.

3 Great Animal Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
Exert Beorn and remove from the game a minion from your discard pile to make Beorn strength +X, where X is that minion’s strength.
... Bilbo thought he saw away to the right, or to the left, the shadowy form of a great bear prowling along in the same direction.
H2 R 64

Hmm even though its an event still seems insanely good. No other strength pump does anything close to this and used on ur beorn that can exert to be +10 this is way too good.

Thranduil
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"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer
Thranduil
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:36 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
Badly worded. Id say "either" not one of. Cool.

My problem with ’either’ is that it suggests 2 options following, not 3, but I guess it’s alright. Consider it changed.

lem0nhead wrote:
Thats weird. Im sure it has its uses but at the moment looks pointless use of deck space.

Yes it’s weird, but I think useful in a deck when you only have 2 maybe 3 companions. This means Beorn doesn’t have to fight too many minions at once, but can stagger them and beat them to a pulp one at a time.

lem0nhead wrote:
Hmm even though its an event still seems insanely good. No other strength pump does anything close to this and used on ur beorn that can exert to be +10 this is way too good.

I accept that it’s exceptionally good, but my main arguments for why I think it’s balanced is that it requires an exertion on a guy who already tends to have a lot of wounds on him, and it costs 3 which is not good for a choke deck.

Though I entirely understand your concerns, I’d like another opinion or two before I change it.

Thranduil
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NBarden
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:18 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Thranduil wrote:
Thanks all.

Just to remind you of the other major Beorn card from the first set:

2 • Beorn’s Axe Gandalf
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +3
Bearer must be Beorn.
He is terror 1 (each time he is assigned to a skirmish an opponent’s minion, you make that opponent exert their character) for each wound on him.
He was clothed in a tunic of wool down to his knees, and was leaning on a large axe.
H1 R 92

Nice.

Now onto some more cards from this set:

0 Bear Tracks Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Beorn who is either terror X, damage +X or defender +X.
Make a Gandalf Man (or any character is you cannot spot 4 companions) strength +X.
’I soon saw that Beorn could not have made them all...’
H2 C 55

Nice.

0 Well Protected Gandalf
Event • Assignment
Spot Beorn to make a non-fierce minion fierce until the regroup phase. Then, you may prevent that minion from being assigned to a non-fierce skirmish.
’The goblins,’ Beorn had said, ’will not dare to cross the Great River for a hundred miles north of the Carrock nor to come near my house...’
H2 C 86

MUST have for choke. LOVE IT!

3 Great Animal Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
Exert Beorn and remove from the game a minion from your discard pile to make Beorn strength +X, where X is that minion’s strength.
... Bilbo thought he saw away to the right, or to the left, the shadowy form of a great bear prowling along in the same direction.
H2 R 64

Interesting...I like it. Beorn/Grimbeorn choke deck, anyone?

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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:01 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:
Thanks all.

Just to remind you of the other major Beorn card from the first set:

2 • Beorn’s Axe Gandalf
Possession • Hand Weapon
Str: +3
Bearer must be Beorn.
He is terror 1 (each time he is assigned to a skirmish an opponent’s minion, you make that opponent exert their character) for each wound on him.
He was clothed in a tunic of wool down to his knees, and was leaning on a large axe.
H1 R 92
whoa...powerful

Now onto some more cards from this set:

0 Bear Tracks Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
To play, spot Beorn who is either terror X, damage +X or defender +X.
Make a Gandalf Man (or any character is you cannot spot 4 companions) strength +X.
’I soon saw that Beorn could not have made them all...’
H2 C 55
works for me

0 Well Protected Gandalf
Event • Assignment
Spot Beorn to make a non-fierce minion fierce until the regroup phase. Then, you may prevent that minion from being assigned to a non-fierce skirmish.
’The goblins,’ Beorn had said, ’will not dare to cross the Great River for a hundred miles north of the Carrock nor to come near my house...’
H2 C 86
wording is clunky. maybe make a fierce minion unable to be assigned to non fierce skirmishes

3 Great Animal Gandalf
Event • Skirmish
Exert Beorn and remove from the game a minion from your discard pile to make Beorn strength +X, where X is that minion’s strength.
... Bilbo thought he saw away to the right, or to the left, the shadowy form of a great bear prowling along in the same direction.
H2 R 64

should be exert beorn and remove a minion in your discard pile from the game
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