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elf lvr
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:34 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
[quote="Felipe Musco"]
elf lvr wrote:

Ephidelís Circle GreenGreenBlueBlue
Enchantment
Split Second.
1GreenBlue, Sacrifice a permanent: Counter target spell.
Should an outsider try to read the runes, they would only appear to him as a writhing mass of chalked serpents. Only to Etrurians does it remain clear.
R

The cost might seem prohibitive, but give this split second, and itís insanely broken,since it WILL come into play, and then all you need is a Crucible of Worlds (you already paid the mana cost, so you have enough mana) and something like Rule of Law and itís game over. Even without Rule of Law the game is pretty much finished. But I like it!


Itís broken... but you like it? Laughing

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Riftwalking Green/Blue
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant creature. Enchanted creature has Vanishing 2.
When enchanted creature is put into a graveyard from play while it had no Vanishing counters on it, that creatureís controller may destroy another target creature.
The mages of Etruria can walk the rifts like solid roads. If youíre not careful, theyíll take you with them!
C

The card should instruct you to put 2 time counters on the creature, or you should phrase it like Reality Acid, otherwise, itís a one-mana instantaneous removal. I think itís too powerful for the colors itís in. Should be black.


Well, itís not terribly powerful. You either have to sac one of your creatures to get rid of another, or you get rid of one of theirs and they get to sac one of yours. And either way, they still get a little bit of use out of the card.

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Ephidelís Gate 1GreenBlue
Enchantment
When Ephidelís Gate comes into play, remove target creautre you control from the game. If you do, remove target creature your opponent controls from the game.
When Ephidelís Gate leaves play, return both removed creatures to play under their ownerís control.
"If we lose a soldier, should not they then lose one of theirs? Itís just good business." - Ephidel
U

Kinda underpowered... Oblivion Ring is better, and itís both common and one-colored.


Suggestions on how to make it better?

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Kitchilan, Minamos Professor 2Green/BlueGreen/Blue
Legendary Creature - Elf Wizard
When Kitchilan, Minamos Professor comes into play, remove target permanent from the game.
At the beginning of your upkeep (unless it says "next upkeep", etc, it happens everytime already), return a card removed by Kitchilan, Minamos Professor to play. Then, remove another target permanent from the game.
"Hereís a helpful hint: Donít make the professors mad. Theyíll send you through the rift, and you may not come back with all your parts." - Minamos 7th Year Student
2/4
R

Cool, you either get to shut down something (unless it doesnít have summoning sickness and can be activated at instant-speed) forever or to shut down the most powerful card in play. I like him very much. Problem seems to be youíre giving green whiteís abilities. Stuff like these and Ephielís Gate belong to white and blue, not to green. But if thatís the intent, then itís fine.


Well... I realized these were more blue-ish... which is why youíll see most of the remove from the game and time counter cards in this culture in blue (or at least with a blue requirement) and the mana manipulation in green (with Etrurian Landshifter as an obvious exception).

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Riftstone 3GreenBlue
Legendary Artifact
Upkeep - GreenBlue ??? What does this means?
Tap: Put a card removed from the game into play under your control. Then, remove target nonland permanent you control from the game. (if the card is removed from the game, itís not a permanent anymore, nor can it be targeted)
The Archsage Ephidel weilds the only true power of his kingdom; the Riftstone. It alone grants his mages control over the Etrurian Rift.
R

I like the feeling of the tribe, kinda like the weird Simic from Ravnica. Iíd lower the cost, after all, itís legendary anyway.


How would you word an upkeep (not cumulative) of having to pay GreenBlue?
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:19 am
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Quote:
Riftwalking Green/Blue
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant creature. Enchanted creature has Vanishing 2.
When enchanted creature is put into a graveyard from play while it had no Vanishing counters on it, that creatureís controller may destroy another target creature.
The mages of Etruria can walk the rifts like solid roads. If youíre not careful, theyíll take you with them!
C

The card should instruct you to put 2 time counters on the creature, or you should phrase it like Reality Acid, otherwise, itís a one-mana instantaneous removal. I think itís too powerful for the colors itís in. Should be black.


Well, itís not terribly powerful. You either have to sac one of your creatures to get rid of another, or you get rid of one of theirs and they get to sac one of yours. And either way, they still get a little bit of use out of the card.

You donít get it. Innocent Blood is in the rightful color forthis, and itís still insanely powerful in Extended, heck, even Legacy!This card, in this color combinatios, is just too much. What I mean is that giving Vanishing to a creature without actually giving it time counters means it dies automatically, and it can kill indestructible creatures, since vanishing makes you sacrifice the permanent.

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Ephidelís Gate 1GreenBlue
Enchantment
When Ephidelís Gate comes into play, remove target creautre you control from the game. If you do, remove target creature your opponent controls from the game.
When Ephidelís Gate leaves play, return both removed creatures to play under their ownerís control.
"If we lose a soldier, should not they then lose one of theirs? Itís just good business." - Ephidel
U

Kinda underpowered... Oblivion Ring is better, and itís both common and one-colored.


Suggestions on how to make it better?

Iíd probably lose the colorless mana and the part where it affects one of you critters.

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Riftstone 3GreenBlue
Legendary Artifact
Upkeep - GreenBlue ??? What does this means?
Tap: Put a card removed from the game into play under your control. Then, remove target nonland permanent you control from the game. (if the card is removed from the game, itís not a permanent anymore, nor can it be targeted)
The Archsage Ephidel weilds the only true power of his kingdom; the Riftstone. It alone grants his mages control over the Etrurian Rift.
R

I like the feeling of the tribe, kinda like the weird Simic from Ravnica. Iíd lower the cost, after all, itís legendary anyway.


How would you word an upkeep (not cumulative) of having to pay GreenBlue?

At the beggining of your upkeep, pay ___ or sacrifice ___. Read Drifter il-Dalís text, itís right up this alley.
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elf lvr
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:42 am
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Some changes made. I included adding time counters to the card on Riftwalking, and Iíll do some stuff with the others, too.
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NBarden
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:03 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
elf lvr wrote:

Ephidelís Circle GreenGreenBlueBlue
Enchantment
Split Second.
1GreenBlue, Sacrifice a permanent: Counter target spell.
Should an outsider try to read the runes, they would only appear to him as a writhing mass of chalked serpents. Only to Etrurians does it remain clear.
R

What F_M said. Love it.

Riftwalking Green/Blue
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant creature. Enchanted creature has Vanishing 2.
When enchanted creature is put into a graveyard from play while it had no Vanishing counters on it, that creatureís controller may destroy another target creature.
The mages of Etruria can walk the rifts like solid roads. If youíre not careful, theyíll take you with them!
C

Love it.

Ephidelís Gate 1GreenBlue
Enchantment
When Ephidelís Gate comes into play, remove target creautre you control from the game. If you do, remove target creature your opponent controls from the game.
When Ephidelís Gate leaves play, return both removed creatures to play under their ownerís control.
"If we lose a soldier, should not they then lose one of theirs? Itís just good business." - Ephidel
U

Interesting. Love the concept, but maybe make it just cost Green/Blue?

Kitchilan, Minamos Professor 2Green/BlueGreen/Blue
Legendary Creature - Elf Wizard
When Kitchilan, Minamos Professor comes into play, remove target permanent from the game.
At the beginning of your upkeep, return a card removed by Kitchilan, Minamos Professor to play. Then, remove another target permanent from the game.
"Hereís a helpful hint: Donít make the professors mad. Theyíll send you through the rift, and you may not come back with all your parts." - Minamos 7th Year Student
2/4
R

Let it be played anytime you can play an instant, and give it split-second. Oh yeah, and let it draw a card. Well, its legendary, isnít it? You can probably drop power to 1 if you do that.

Riftstone 3GreenBlue
Legendary Artifact
Upkeep - GreenBlue
Tap: Put a card removed from the game into play under your control. Then, remove target nonland permanent you control from the game.
The Archsage Ephidel weilds the only true power of his kingdom; the Riftstone. It alone grants his mages control over the Etrurian Rift.
R

Love it. Extirpate a really powerful card of your opponentís and then sac a 1/1 creature. Great Black/Green/Blue deck idea.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:21 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
elf lvr wrote:

Riftstone 2GreenBlue
Legendary Artifact
At the start of each of your upkeeps, pay GreenBlue or sacrifice Riftstone.
Tap: Put a permanent removed from the game into play under your control. Then, remove target nonland permanent you control from the game.
The Archsage Ephidel weilds the only true power of his kingdom; the Riftstone. It alone grants his mages control over the Etrurian Rift.
R


You canít put a card into play, cause there would be some messed-up things if you put, for instance, RIft Bolt into play. You can only put into play cards that are permanents. Oh, and BUMP.
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NBarden
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:16 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Or, if you could, imagine Twitch. Free card, whenever you want.
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elf lvr
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:25 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Itachi, Raven King 1BlackBlackWhiteWhite
Legendary Creature - Human Ninja
Fear. Shroud.
Each time Itachi is about to deal damage to a player, prevent that damage. For each 1 damage prevented in this way, that player discards a card.
2White/Black, Tap: Counter target Instant spell.
A flitting shadow. A flash of steel. The cold taste of despair.
1/5
R

Valorian Archthief BlackWhite
Creature - Human Ninja
Bushido 2.
Champion a Ninja.
Each time Valorian Archthief deals damage to a player, that player discards a card at random.
On the island of Valor, their thieves are held in higher esteem than their preists.
2/2
U

Valorian Pickpocket Black
Creature - Human Ninja
Ninjutsu - 1White
Each time Valorian Pickpocket deals damage to a player, sacrifice it. If you do, that player discards their hand.
Thanks to the national pastime of theivery, it has become quite a fashion to line your pockets with poisoned daggers.
0/2
R

The Assassinís Guild
Legendary Land
The Assassinís Guild comes into play tapped.
Tap: Add Black to your mana pool.
BlackBlack, Tap: Search your library for target Ninja with power 2 or less and add it to your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.

Begnion Throne Room
Land
Begnion Throne Room comes into play tapped.
When Begnion throne room comes into play, target player discards a card.
1, Tap: Add BlackWhite to your mana pool.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:09 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
elf lvr wrote:
Itachi, Raven King 1BlackWhiteWhite
Legendary Creature - Human Ninja
Fear. Shroud.
[b]If Itachi would
deal damage to a player, prevent that damage. For each 1 damage prevented this way, that player discards a card.
2White/Black, Tap: Counter target Instant spell.
A flitting shadow. A flash of steel. The cold taste of despair.
1/5
R

WTF? "Counter target instant spell"? Cool! Not sure itíd stick, but cool.

Mangekyou Eyes White
Enchantment
Each time your opponent plays a spell, remove a card with the same name from their graveyard from the game. If you do, counter that spell and remove it from the game.
"Whatever you do, donít look into his eyes. They say he can steal your very soul."
U

[b]SO broken. WOuld never see the day of light outside the presses.


Valorian Archthief White
Creature - Human Ninja
Bushido 2.
Champion a Ninja.
Each time Valorian Archthief deals damage to a player, that player discards a card at random.
On the island of Valor, their thieves are held in higher esteem than their preists.
2/2
U

[b]Hahaha "champion a ninja"! Nice! Maybe a little underpowered.


Valorian Pickpocket
Creature - Human Ninja
Ninjutsu - 1White
[b]When
Valorian Pickpocket deals damage to a player, sacrifice it. If you do, that player discards their hand.
Thanks to the national pastime of theivery, it has become quite a fashion to line your pockets with poisoned daggers.
0/2
R

I was going tosey itís overpowered, but then I saw itís a 0/2. Very nice indeed.

Warden of Despair 3Black
Creature - Spectre
Whenever a player discards a card from hand, remove that card from the game instead.
You may play cards removed from the game by Warden of Despair without paying their mana costs.
No one knows where the Wardens came from, only that they control forces beyond human control.
0/4
R

[b]Too powerful. Bordering the absurd.


The Assassinís Guild
Legendary Land
The Assassinís Guild comes into play tapped.
Tap: Add to your mana pool.
BlackBlack, Tap: Search your library for [b]a
Ninja with power 2 or less and put it into your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.

Coooooooool!!!!

Begnion Throne Room
Land
Begnion Throne Room comes into play tapped. When Begnion throne room comes into play, target player discards a card.
1, Tap: Add White to your mana pool.

[b]I liked this A LOT!


I loved the feeling of the Ninjas, so far! Iíd DEFINITELY play BW, sneaky...
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:37 am
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
elf lvr wrote:
Itachi, Raven King 1BlackBlackWhiteWhite
Legendary Creature - Human Ninja
Fear. Shroud.
Each time Itachi is about to deal damage to a player, prevent that damage. For each 1 damage prevented in this way, that player discards a card.
2White/Black, Tap: Counter target Instant spell.
A flitting shadow. A flash of steel. The cold taste of despair.
1/5
R

Sweet. A little underpowered for the cost and being legendary. Iíd make him 2/5 at least.

Mangekyou Eyes BlackWhite
Enchantment
Each time your opponent plays a spell, remove a card with the same name from their graveyard from the game. If you do, counter that spell and remove it from the game.
"Whatever you do, donít look into his eyes. They say he can steal your very soul."
U

Auto-extirpate! Sweet.

Valorian Archthief BlackWhite
Creature - Human Ninja
Bushido 2.
Champion a Ninja.
Each time Valorian Archthief deals damage to a player, that player discards a card at random.
On the island of Valor, their thieves are held in higher esteem than their preists.
2/2
U

Champion a ninja means remove it from the game to return it to the game after this creature leaves play, correct? I like it a lot. If it wasnít for the champion a ninja, Iíd say the Bushido is OP, but as is, I like it.

Valorian Pickpocket Black
Creature - Human Ninja
Ninjutsu - 1White
Each time Valorian Pickpocket deals damage to a player, sacrifice it. If you do, that player discards their hand.
Thanks to the national pastime of theivery, it has become quite a fashion to line your pockets with poisoned daggers.
0/2
R

Ninjutsu is a little underpowered. Iíd make it Ninjutsu 0, personally, because it starts out at 0 damage. Or maybe Ninjutsu White/Black would be cool.

Warden of Despair 3BlackBlack
Creature - Spectre
Whenever a player discards a card from hand, remove that card from the game instead.
You may play cards removed from the game by Warden of Despair without paying their mana costs.
No one knows where the Wardens came from, only that they control forces beyond human control.
0/4
R

Whoa. Eh...ouch. OP, broken, and otherwise insane! So if youíre opponent discards a card, it comes into play under your control? Along with Ninja discarding?

So, you gonna unban Tinker soon?


The Assassinís Guild
Legendary Land
The Assassinís Guild comes into play tapped.
Tap: Add Black to your mana pool.
BlackBlack, Tap: Search your library for target Ninja with power 2 or less and add it to your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.

Like it. A lot.

Begnion Throne Room
Land
Begnion Throne Room comes into play tapped. When Begnion throne room comes into play, target player discards a card.
1, Tap: Add BlackWhite to your mana pool.

Is this a new kind of land then? I like it.


Whenever you make cards with Black, write it like this.

Code:
[Black]


That way, it doesnít mess up the formatting and everything and get confused with bold font.
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elf lvr
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:15 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
NBarden wrote:
elf lvr wrote:
Itachi, Raven King 1BlackBlackWhiteWhite
Legendary Creature - Human Ninja
Fear. Shroud.
Each time Itachi is about to deal damage to a player, prevent that damage. For each 1 damage prevented in this way, that player discards a card.
2White/Black, Tap: Counter target Instant spell.
A flitting shadow. A flash of steel. The cold taste of despair.
1/5
R


Sweet. A little underpowered for the cost and being legendary. Iíd make him 2/5 at least.



I thought having shroud and fear balanced him out well enough, but...

I removed the two broken cards entirely. Youíll see Mangekyou Eyes again, but with a significantly different text...

Alright, weíve taken a look at 3 of the 6 big groups in this set, lets give a brief intro into another one. Sacaeans!

Hereís something I was thinking of today. See what you think.

Volcanic Elemental 5RedRedRed
Creature - Elemental
When Volcanic Elemental comes into play, it deals 4 damage to each other creature.
Champion an Elemental.
Evoke - 3RedRed
5/5

So, Iím not going to ask, "What do you think?"

The better question would be, "How much is wrong with it?"

Sacaean Riftbear GreenRed
Creature - Bear
Sacaean Riftbear is unblockable.
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Sacaean Riftbear.
Suspend 2 - GreenRed
3/1

Wrath Red
Creature - Elemental
When you play Wrath, clash with an opponent. If you lose, sacrifice Wrath.
3/1
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