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| elf lvr |
![]() Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:33 pm |
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NBarden wrote: All right. Everyone remember the dwarven theme? Throw up a bunch of resources, but not use them as efficiently as possible. Thus, we begin with...
 •Gimli, Lover of Mithril 
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1.
Each time the fellowship moves from an underground site, you may add a threat to add a resource.
Nice.
Quote: Delver of Khazad-Dum
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
To play, add a threat.
When you play this companion, you may add a resource.
I’ll wait to see how you use resources here; but you might need to make some serious threat removal cards.
Quote:  Dwarven Smith
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Fellowship: Exert Dwarven Smith and remove a resource to play a hand weapon from your draw deck.
Since weapons are generally very cheap, maybe you should make it add  as well.
Quote:  •Durin III, Dwarven King
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
Durin III is twilight cost -1 for each resource you can spot.
Fellowship: Play a artifact on Durin III and add to add a resource.
Again, need to see some more resource cards, but he looks okay. maybe drop the twilight adding to just , but then again, artifacts are really cheap...
Quote: •Gloin, Father of Gimli
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
Skirmish: Remove a resource to make Gloin strength +2 and damage +1.
Regroup: Remove a resource to choose one: Remove a shadow resource, a resource, make the shadow player discard a shadow card, or remove .
What’s up with the random "a resource" in there? |
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:20 pm |
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| I still think gloins ability just has TOO many broken possibilities... |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:08 am |
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NBarden wrote: •Gimli, Lover of Mithril
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 5
Damage +1.
Each time the fellowship moves from an underground site, you may add a threat to add a resource.
Don’t think he needs resistance 5 from a balance perspective, but fair enough if it’s for fluff reasons.
NBarden wrote: Delver of Khazad-Dum
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
To play, add a threat.
When you play this companion, you may add a resource.
I think I’d prefer to make him unique or cost instead of adding a threat, or maybe limiting the ability to certain sights. Adding a threat I think is slightly too harsh a penalty for this guy.
NBarden wrote: Dwarven Smith
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Fellowship: Exert Dwarven Smith and remove a resource to play a hand weapon from your draw deck.
Solid. Maybe he could cost -1 in your starting fellowship?
NBarden wrote: •Durin III, Dwarven King
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 7
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
Durin III is twilight cost -1 for each resource you can spot.
Fellowship: Play a artifact on Durin III and add to add a resource.
Seems a bit too easy. Play a ring on him, transfer it to someone else, do it again. Maybe if it was maneuver so you couldn’t transfer them? Then you could probably get rid of the adding as well - though that might be a bit too  . Maybe at the start of the fellowship phase without the twilight adding would be better?
NBarden wrote: •Gloin, Father of Gimli
Companion • Dwarf
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 6
Damage +1.
Skirmish: Remove a resource to make Gloin strength +2 and damage +1.
Regroup: Remove a resource to choose one: Remove a shadow resource, make the shadow player discard a shadow card, or remove .
Compared to your non-unique companions just above, this guy is ridiculous! One of them exerted and removed a resource to fetch 1 hand weapon, whereas this guy can just remove them to make him very strong, then discard every Shadow card or remove all the twilight! Costing with ’To play, remove a resource’ then removing the second option from the regroup ability (which is MUCH better than the others) and the damage bonus from the skirmish ability would make him MUCH more balanced.
My problem so far is that Dwarves weren’t meant to be able to use resources well, but each of Gloin’s abilities are better than quite a few of the  equivalents.
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:49 pm |
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Changed Gloin to letting the shadow player choose. And threw in a remove threat option, as well as upped the remove twilight option.
You’ll have to burn through several resources before you can start damaging your opponent. However, reloading the threats can mean some fun for the dwarves, so it has the power of a resource, although not a powerful one.
That’s about the power I want the dwarves to have. If I need to guard resources anymore, lmk. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:42 pm |
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I still think the non-unique companions are not good enough and Gloin is far too good.
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| elf lvr |
![]() Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:13 pm |
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Just an idea: Change Durin back to Fellowship: and simply add a "from hand" in there.
He works as is, but it’s just what I’d do. |
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:14 am |
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•Mine-Shafts of Khazad Dum
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves, add a resource.
Each minion is twilight cost -1 and strength +1.
 •Ring of Greed
Artifact • Ring
Bearer must be a Dwarf. He is damage +2.
Shadow: Add and discard this artifact to add a resource.
•Ring of Wealth
Artifact • Ring
Vitality: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf. He is damage +1.
Each time you move to an underground site, add a resource.
Each time you move from an underground site, remove a resource.
Hewed Orc-Necks
Event • Assignment
Remove a resource to make a Dwarf defender +1. You may remove a shadow resource.
Remove this event from the game.
•Certainty of Death
Condition • Support Area
Assignment:  : Remove a resource to make a Dwarf defender +3. At the start of the regroup phase, place that Dwarf in the dead pile.
Untap: Fellowship: Remove a resource.
•Small Chance of Success
Condition • Support Area
Skirmish: : If a Dwarf is losing a skirmish, remove a resource to make him strength +2 and damage +1.
Untap: Fellowship: Add a threat. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:40 am |
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NBarden wrote: •Mine-Shafts of Khazad Dum
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves, add a resource.
Each minion is twilight cost -1 and strength +1.
Needs to spot some Dwarves to play, and should probably be free, but it’s lots of fun. Not sure I’d use it, but never mind.
NBarden wrote: •Ring of Greed
Artifact • Ring
Bearer must be a Dwarf. He is damage +2.
Bearer is damage +1.
Shadow: Add and discard this artifact to add a resource.
Can Free Peoples players use Shadow actions? I have no clue. Why do you give 2 separate damage bonuses for this card? Which one is correct? As a principle, it’s probably fine, but you’d need to check out the rules.
NBarden wrote: •Ring of Wealth
Artifact • Ring
Vitality: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf. He is damage +1.
When you play this artifact, add a resource.
When this artifact is discarded, remove a Free Peoples resource.
When are you going to discard this artifact? Make it another trigger like ’Each time you move from a forest site, remove a FP resource’ or something.
NBarden wrote: Hewed Orc-Necks
Event • Assignment
Remove a resource to make a Dwarf defender +1. You may remove a shadow resource.
Remove this event from the game.
Very interesting. I think I’d just get rid of the removing this event from the game and the removing Shadow resources, just to make it simpler.
NBarden wrote: •Certainty of Death
Condition • Support Area
Assignment: : Remove a resource to make a dwarf defender +3. At the start of the regroup phase, place that Dwarf in the dead pile.
Untap: Fellowship: Remove a resource.
Very cool. I like this one a lot, but you should not emphasise defender bonuses for the culture.
NBarden wrote: •Small Chance of Success
Condition • Support Area
Skirmish: : If a Dwarf is losing a skirmish, remove a resource to make him strength +2 and damage +1.
Untap: Fellowship: Add a threat.
Fine, but the damage bonus is mostly irrelevant if you’re about to lose. I think I’d just get rid of that limitation altogether, and just say ’Remove a resource to make him...’
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| NBarden |
![]() Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:34 pm |
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On the first one, you’d have to be crazy to run it outside a deck.
Ring of Greed...oops.
Ring of Wealth, very tricky, can be very nice if played right, if not, decent, but nothing exceptional.
Hewed Orc-Necks- Remove a resource to make Defender +1? I think its a little underpowered there. I like it how it is, but I might up cost. or ?
Small Chance of Success, damage in the dwarf culture has NEVER been about simply finishing minions. Look at all the damage combos. And why would you be pumping if not to win? |
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| sickofpalantirs |
![]() Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:52 pm |
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NBarden wrote: •Mine-Shafts of Khazad Dum
Condition • Support Area
Each time the fellowship moves, add a resource.
Each minion is twilight cost -1 and strength +1.
maybe instead of that killer minion helper, each time the fellowship moves add 2 threats or discard this condition
•Ring of Greed
Artifact • Ring
Bearer must be a Dwarf. He is damage +2.
Shadow: Add and discard this artifact to add a resource.
coolio!
•Ring of Wealth
Artifact • Ring
Vitality: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf. He is damage +1.
Each time you move to an underground site, add a resource.
Each time you move from an underground site, remove a resource.
works for me!
Hewed Orc-Necks
Event • Assignment
Remove a resource to make a Dwarf defender +1. You may remove a shadow resource.
Remove this event from the game.
maybe or damage +1-2
•Certainty of Death
Condition • Support Area
Assignment: : Remove a resource to make a Dwarf defender +3. At the start of the regroup phase, place that Dwarf in the dead pile.
Untap: Fellowship: Remove a resource.
defender +3 is too much. 2 maybe
•Small Chance of Success
Condition • Support Area
Skirmish: : If a Dwarf is losing a skirmish, remove a resource to make him strength +2 and damage +1.
Untap: Fellowship: Add a threat.
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