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NBarden
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:14 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
And standard legal.

Djinn Illuminatus
Rite of Flame

Double your mana! Or more. Consider....

3 Rite of Flame in graveyard.

1 Rite of Flame in hand

6-7 Mountains

24-28 mana!

7 spells played:

2 Dragonstorm (easy)

15 Dragons!

OR

Blaze

Have fun!

Or, Iím not sure, does the instant resolve before copying it? If so...

Mountain
Rite of Flame
Dragonstorm

EVERY FLIPPINí DRAGON EVER INVENTED!

OR

Blaze.
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:30 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Sorry to bust your bubble, but Replicate, as well as Storm, does not count as PLAYING a spell, the copy is merely PUT in the stack, so any effect that trigger by playing spells (storm count is one of them) does not count. However, since youíve found out about Djinn Illuminatus, try this out:

Djinn Illuminatus
Pact of the Titan
Angelís Grace

When the opponent ships the turn back to you, simply play any number of copies of Pact of the Titan eot (you choose a number, since itís an infinite loop). Then, during your upkeep, ALL the "you lose the game" triggered abilities will trigger, allowing you to play ONE Angelís Grace (which canít be countered, since it has Split Second) and NOT lose the game, and then proceed to smash with any amount of 4/4 Giants.
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:32 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
So it IS a broken combo, but not in the way I was thinking.

Oh well. Still powerful with Blaze.
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:06 pm
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I just had a thought....

Couldnít you practically Extirpate your opponentís graveyard? Or does split-second stop that?

Also, can I use Ancestral Vision to cycle through my deck at huge speeds for free until I get the cards I want? After I suspend it, of course. Or build a slightly larger deck (say, 65 cards) and let Wheel of Fate cycle both mine and my opponents decks until my opponent decks out before me?
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Felipe Musco
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:55 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Extirpate has Split Second, so you canít Replicate it. Also, the no-cost cards have a converted mana cost of zero in abstract (for tutoring purposes, countering purposes, etc), but they in fact do NOT have a mana cost at all, so you canít pay their cost to replicate them. Suspend only gives you an ALTERNATE cost, it doesnít change the mana cost. Force of Will is still a 5-color spell even if I pitch a blue card and pay 1 life to play it for free.
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physcosick
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:05 am
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Felipe Musco wrote:
Extirpate has Split Second, so you canít Replicate it.
Incorrect. Replicate is a triggered ability and split second does not get around it. You can still replicate split second spells.
Proof:
"Q: My opponent has a Djinn Illuminatus out and plays Sudden Shock. When he does, he tries to Replicate the Sudden Shock. Does Split Second prevent the Replicated copies from being added to the stack, or do they all go on the stack at the same time?

A: When a Repicate cost is paid, a triggered ability goes on the stack on top of the spell. Split Second does not prevent this ability from being used when the spell is played. When this triggered ability resolves, the appropriate number of copies of this spell will be put on the stack. These copies are not played, so Split Second will not prevent the copies from going on the stack. So your opponent can do what you have described."

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Felipe Musco
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:00 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 2434 Location: Florianůpolis, SC, Brasil
Shocked
Didnít know that! Thanks!
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NBarden
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:44 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
I can see it now. Traumatize half the deck (or more), and then Extirpate everything. Fun.
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