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lem0nhead

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:28 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

Thranduil wrote:

Riding Wolf Orc

Possession • Mount
Str: +2
Vit: +1
Bearer must be an Orc

Orc with printed vitality 2 or less.
To play, discard a card from hand.
Sometimes they rode on wolves like men do on horses...
H2 C 133

Id swap the order of those sentences around but hey ho. Id hope you cant take advantage too much of vitality or this needs to cost.

Wild Wolf

Possession • Mount
Str: +3
Vit: +2
Bearer must be an Orc

Orc with printed vitality 2 or less.
To play, discard 2 cards from hand.
... many of their own wolves were turning upon them and rending the dead and the wounded.
H2 U 138

Again, for 0 cost they best not be abusable, its just too cheap. How do you justify this?

Great Wolf Orc

Possession • Mount
Str: +2
Vit: +3
Bearer must be an Orc

Orc. Bearer cannot be exerted.
Response: If bearer is about to take a wound in a skirmish, discard a card from hand to prevent it.
... the goblin army had gathered behind the resisted vanguard, and poured now in rage into the valley...
H2 R 123

Hmmm better.

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Thranduil

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:33 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

lem0nhead wrote:

Again, for 0 cost they best not be abusable, its just too cheap. How do you justify this?

Because most of the Orcs of this block have no more than 1 vitality and no exertion abilities. As the for the old Orc

culture, they may be a little broken, but they can’t be any worse than the Wargs from RoS!

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lem0nhead

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:36 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

Ok having 1 vitality helps, obviously i didnt know that, but im still not sure +2 on each stats should ever be free. It remains to be seen. The dunlendings had no vitality and there weapons were free but gave no more than +3 strength. Not +2 and +2 vitality. Show me some orcs Thran!

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Thranduil

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:31 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

lem0nhead wrote:

Show me some orcs Thran!

Your wish is my command, oh Juicy-Headed One! (well, up to a point)! Razz

Firstly, there are all the Orcs from the last set at this link of which, as far as I remember, only the Great Goblin is unable to bear a Wolf.

Secondly, here are some basic Orc

minions (based on the old Warg-riders):

Goblin Wolf-rider Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 1
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 2 vitality, it is strength +2.
’They ride upon wolves, and Wargs are om their train!’
H2 C 120

Goblin Outrider Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 1
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 2 vitality, it is ambush

.
These were the swiftest wolf-riders, and already their cries and howls rent the air afar.
H2 C 117

Goblin Cavalry Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 8
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 3 vitality, it is strength +2.
While this minion has at least 4 vitality, it is ambush

.
’The Goblins are upon you!’
H2 C 110

Goblin Commander Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
Skirmish: Discard a card from hand to make an Orc

Orc with 3 or more vitality strength +1.
Skirmish: Discard a card from hand to make an Orc

Orc with 5 or more vitality strength +2.
’There is a shadow by the door. Something is outside!’
H2 C 111

Thranduil

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:08 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Thranduil wrote:

Goblin Commander Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
Skirmish: Discard a card from hand to make an Orc

Orc with 3 or more vitality strength +1.
Skirmish: Discard a card from hand to make an Orc

Orc with 5 or more vitality strength +2.
’There is a shadow by the door. Something is outside!’
H2 C 111

l

all were fine, except I think this one needs a limit of 2-3

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lem0nhead

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:16 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

Oops ive rust realised all your wargs require a card discard or more to play. That balances them!!! Sorry Thran!

These orcs all look fine.

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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:13 am

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Thranduil wrote:

Goblin Wolf-rider Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 1
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 2 vitality, it is strength +2.
’They ride upon wolves, and Wargs are om their train!’
H2 C 120

Cool.

Thranduil wrote:

Goblin Outrider Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 1
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 2 vitality, it is ambush

.
These were the swiftest wolf-riders, and already their cries and howls rent the air afar.
H2 C 117

Neat.

Thranduil wrote:

Goblin Cavalry Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 8
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 3 vitality, it is strength +2.
While this minion has at least 4 vitality, it is ambush

.
’The Goblins are upon you!’
H2 C 110

A wee bit pricey...consider lowering the cost to

. Maybe.

Thranduil wrote:

Goblin Commander Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 6
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
Skirmish: Discard a card from hand to make an Orc

Orc with 3 or more vitality strength +1.
Skirmish: Discard a card from hand to make an Orc

Orc with 5 or more vitality strength +2.
’There is a shadow by the door. Something is outside!’
H2 C 111

I agree with SoP: put a cap on it. Perhaps +4 for the first, and +6 for the second.

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Anvar

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:32 am

Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 251 Location:

DáinIronfoot wrote:

I agree with SoP: put a cap on it. Perhaps +4 for the first, and +6 for the second.

I disagree. Imagine if Easterling Captain had had a limit. This is the sort of power card that makes a theme worth playing and shouldn’t be watered down. Remember that to play the mounts you need to discard cards, and remember that this guy only has vit 2 so you can’t use either ability without working for it. So you need to have used at least 3 cards to get them into play.

Also remember that in general, vitality = printed vitality - wounds. If they exert your guys, say with archery, Rohan horses or Terror, then this ability stops working.

I think this guy is awesome. It isn’t that easy to achieve, but when you do it should be very powerful against a strength based fellowship (might suffer against say Fourth level Knights).

Anvar

sickofpalantirs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:35 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

if you insist, but easterling captain is pretty darn evil...and my beasterling deck worked fine without him

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Thranduil

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:41 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

Following the theme:

Goblin Horde Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 9
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 3 vitality, it is strength +3.
While this minion has at least 4 vitality, it is ambush

.
While this minion has at least 5 vitality, it is damage +1.
... they came on like a tide in fury and disorder.
H2 U 115

Rampagous Horde Orc

Minion • Orc
Str: 12
Vit: 2
Sit: 4
While this minion has at least 3 vitality, it is strength +2.
While this minion has at least 4 vitality, it is fierce.
While this minion has at least 5 vitality, it is terror 1.
H2 R 130

And another vitality adder:

Goblin Axe Orc

Possession • Hand Weapon
Vit: +1
Bearer must be an Orc

Orc with vitality 1.
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to make bearer strength +3.
... goblins can climb trees, or cut them down.
H2 C 107

Thranduil

Last edited by Thranduil on Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:22 am; edited 2 times in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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