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| elf lvr |
![]() Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:45 pm |
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Thranduil wrote:
 Furious Warg 
Minion • Warg
Str: 8
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to add  .
... he leaped in the air ten feet, and then rushed round and round the circle biting and snapping...
H2 C 107
Interesting. Works with some of the card drawing.
Quote:  Frenzied Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 10
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
When this minion is assigned to skirmish a character with X wounds, you may spot an Orc to add [X].
Maddened and angry they were... cursing the dwarves in their horrible language...
H2 C 106
Fun.
Quote: Devouring Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Spot 3 minions and remove  to wound a companion this minion is skirmishing.
... the Wargs had no intention of going away...
H2 R 102
Interesting... takes a lot of twilight to make worth it, though. I might drop the cost on the ability to . Red Wrath got you 2 wounds for , though it was only one use, and whirling strike and many other southrons (with a common ambush theme like your wargs, mind you) got one wound for , but again, only at a one-time use. I think that on this guy, a cost would be balanced enough for the ability. |
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:50 am |
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Thranduil wrote:
Furious Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 8
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Discard 2 cards from hand to add .
... he leaped in the air ten feet, and then rushed round and round the circle biting and snapping...
H2 C 107
You are already peeing through ur cards to play these guys and their wargs, lower this to 1 card, or maybe 1 shadow card etc..
Frenzied Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 10
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
When this minion is assigned to skirmish a character with X wounds, you may spot an Orc to add [X].
Maddened and angry they were... cursing the dwarves in their horrible language...
H2 C 106
Each time not when. Sound.
Devouring Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Spot 3 minions and remove to wound a companion this minion is skirmishing.
... the Wargs had no intention of going away...
H2 R 102
Fair enough.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:54 am |
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Thranduil wrote: sickofpalantirs wrote: the lore is from the books(Ie appendixes, thus should be put in quote
I never use quotation marks on my quotes because I never use a lore that isn’t from the books. If I can’t find a good lore, I simply don’t put one on the card.
Understood, but SoP’s point is that the Decipher style (at least back when they had competent designers) was to put any lore from Tolkien’s works in quotes. If it was lore that was spoken by a character, it would be in triple quotes, "’like this’". If it was NOT spoken by a character, it would be in double quotes, "like this". It’s not strictly necessary to do it that way, of course, but it looks a lot cleaner and more "official", I guess.
The Wargs look okay, though I think it darn-near critical that they be fierce, or be able to become fierce somehow. Both the  AND warg-riders were focused around being fierce...it just seems wrong for a race called "Warg" to have nothing to do with fierceness. |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:12 am |
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I’m pretty sure there were quite a few fierce Wargs from the last set, but I see your point.
Here’s one example of a fierce-making card (apart from Bolg who made all Wargs and mounted Orcs fierce:
Wicked Beast
Condition
Str: +5
Vit: +2
Bearer must be an Warg.
Limit 1 per bearer.
Bearer is fierce.
You may remove to play this condition any time you could play a skirmish event.
Without warning a storm of howls broke out fierce and wild all about the camp.
H2 R 137
As for another:
Insatiable Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Spot 5 twilight tokens and exert this minion twice to make a Warg or mounted Orc fierce or damage +1 until the regroup phase.
... with their tongues hanging out and their eyes shining as red and fierce as the flames.
H2 U 125
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:18 am |
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Thranduil wrote:
Wicked Beast
Condition
Str: +4
Vit: +3
Bearer must be an Warg.
Limit 1 per bearer.
Bearer is fierce.
You may exert a Warg to play this condition in the skirmish phase.
Without warning a storm of howls broke out fierce and wild all about the camp.
H2 R 137
Eh? Bit crazy but ok seeing as can be played during the skirmish.
Insatiable Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Spot 5 twilight tokens and exert this minion twice to make a Warg or mounted Orc fierce or damage +1 until the regroup phase.
... with their tongues hanging out and their eyes shining as red and fierce as the flames.
H2 U 125
Cool.
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:26 am |
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Thranduil wrote: Wicked Beast
Condition
Str: +4
Vit: +3
Bearer must be an Warg.
Limit 1 per bearer.
Bearer is fierce.
You may exert a Warg to play this condition in the skirmish phase.
Without warning a storm of howls broke out fierce and wild all about the camp.
H2 R 137
Wargs riding Wargs? Okay...odd, but I guess it works. Maybe take the vitality down to 2, though, seeing as how many of your Wargs already have 3 to start. I also think the skirmish phase part should be worded "You may exert a Warg to play this condition any time you could play a skirmish event." I’m a little worried that could be overpowered, as boosting a minion the FP player has already assigned with another 4 strength AND some vitality AND fierceness is a bit much, even for that much twilight. I’d strongly consider changing it to assignment instead.
Thranduil wrote: Insatiable Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Spot 5 twilight tokens and exert this minion twice to make a Warg or mounted Orc fierce or damage +1 until the regroup phase.
... with their tongues hanging out and their eyes shining as red and fierce as the flames.
H2 U 125
Yeah, that works. Might be able to go as low as 4 twilight tokens, though, or MAYBE even as low as 3 and remove  as an added cost of the ability.
I see your point about making Wargs fierce, but I still think at least one of the three you posted last time should have some method for becoming fierce. Probably two would be even better. Just my personal preference more than anything, but it just seems lacking without it, you know? |
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| lem0nhead |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:30 am |
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DáinIronfoot wrote: Wargs riding Wargs? Okay...odd,
I wrote that exact line out myself then looked at it and realised it was a condition not a mount, the name is just confusing. So not technically true! |
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"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer |
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| Anonymous Prodigy |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:44 am |
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Thranduil wrote: Wicked Beast
Condition
Str: +4
Vit: +3
Bearer must be an Warg.
Limit 1 per bearer.
Bearer is fierce.
You may exert a Warg to play this condition in the skirmish phase.
Without warning a storm of howls broke out fierce and wild all about the camp.
H2 R 137
It seems underpowered. I’d drop the vitality bonus to 2, add a hunter 1 bonus, and add "At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, each companion skirmishing bearer must exert." 
Thranduil wrote: Insatiable Warg
Minion • Warg
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 5
Skirmish: Spot 5 twilight tokens and exert this minion twice to make a Warg or mounted Orc fierce or damage +1 until the regroup phase.
... with their tongues hanging out and their eyes shining as red and fierce as the flames.
H2 U 125
I would make it spot 3 twilight tokens.  |
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| DáinIronfoot |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:02 pm |
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lem0nhead wrote: DáinIronfoot wrote: Wargs riding Wargs? Okay...odd,
I wrote that exact line out myself then looked at it and realised it was a condition not a mount, the name is just confusing. So not technically true!
Yeah, took me a second as well. But even once I realized it, I decided to leave what I’d written, since it’s still what I was envisioning.  |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:46 pm |
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Reduced vitality on Wicked Beast then increased the strength. How is it now? I think it could be quite powerful, because you can play it after ambush bonuses and other later twilight adding that the culture likes to do.
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