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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:33 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
macheteman wrote:
1 The Eagles are Coming! Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
When you play this condition add a Gandalf token here.
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may add a Gandalf token here.
Fellowship: Discard this condition to play an Eagle. That Eagle’s twilight cost is -1 for every 2 tokens on this condition.
Regroup: Discard this condition and spot 2 Eagles to remove 1 for every 2 tokens on this condition. You may draw a card.
"Then he lifted up his hands and cried in a loud voice ringing above the din: The Eagles are coming!"

I would raise the cost to 2, or drop it to 0 and make it unique. Thumbs Up

macheteman wrote:
1 Many Messengers Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spot an Eagle to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Reinforce a Gandalf token for each Shadow card revealed.
"The Eagles report that Orcs are gathering again from afar; but there is a hope..."

I would raise the cost to 2. Smile

macheteman wrote:
7 We Shall Outfly! Gandalf
Event • Fellowship
For each Eagle you exert when playing this, it is twilight cost -2.
If you can spot Gwaihir and Landroval, and neither is exhausted, the move limit for this turn is +1.
"A North wind blows, but we shall outfly it"

I would drop the cost to 6. Neat cards! Smile
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NappyKorn
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:37 pm
Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 552 Location: USA
macheteman wrote:
I like doing 3 cards at a time, so that will be how this whole DC expansion will go. so here’s three more!


1 The Eagles are Coming! Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
When you play this condition add a Gandalf token here.
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may add a Gandalf token here.
Fellowship: Discard this condition to play an Eagle. That Eagle’s twilight cost is -1 for every 2 tokens on this condition.
Regroup: Discard this condition and spot 2 Eagles to remove 1 for every 2 tokens on this condition. You may draw a card.
"Then he lifted up his hands and cried in a loud voice ringing above the din: The Eagles are coming!"

1 Many Messengers Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spot an Eagle to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Reinforce a Gandalf token for each Shadow card revealed.
"The Eagles report that Orcs are gathering again from afar; but there is a hope..."

7 We Shall Outfly! Gandalf
Event • Fellowship
For each Eagle you exert when playing this, it is twilight cost -2.
If you can spot Gwaihir and Landroval, and neither is exhausted, the move limit for this turn is +1.
"A North wind blows, but we shall outfly it"


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Love the cards, great work on them, I am with NB though just toil 2 that way you can keep the eagle healed up for a possile Move Limit +2 with

• Gwaihir, The Windlord
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 7
Vitality: 5
Resistance: 9
To play, spot Gandalf or an Eagle.
If Gwahir is in your starting fellowship, his twilight cost is -2.
While you can spot 3 Eagles, and none of them are exhausted, the move limit is +1.
While you can spot an exhausted Eagle, Gwaihir is defender +1.
Gwaihir was Lord of the Eagles.

Just a Thought though and maybe a +2 move limit is not unfair or what not.
Anyway great cards either way you choose to make "We Shall Outfly" cheaper.
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macheteman
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:02 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
thanks guys, i made a few tweaks. but with The Eagles are Coming, i left it the same. most people thought it was fine, and if it cost too much to play, it defeats the purpose of the twilight reduction. and both of the abilities discard the condition, so i think it is balanced. if more people want it changed, i might change it.

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:53 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
macheteman wrote:
I like doing 3 cards at a time, so that will be how this whole DC expansion will go. so here’s three more!


1 The Eagles are Coming! Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
When you play this condition add a Gandalf token here.
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may add a Gandalf token here.
Fellowship: Discard this condition to play an Eagle. That Eagle’s twilight cost is -1 for every 2 tokens on this condition.
Regroup: Discard this condition and spot 2 Eagles to remove 1 for every 2 tokens on this condition. You may draw a card.
"Then he lifted up his hands and cried in a loud voice ringing above the din: The Eagles are coming!"
make it for every token for the fellowship ability. and the regroup one

2 Many Messengers Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spot an Eagle to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Reinforce a Gandalf token for each Shadow card revealed.
"The Eagles report that Orcs are gathering again from afar; but there is a hope..."
maybe a penalty for freeps cards revealed

7 We Shall Outfly! Gandalf
Event • Fellowship
Toil 2.
If you can spot Gwaihir and Landroval, and neither is exhausted, the move limit for this turn is +1.
"A North wind blows, but we shall outfly it"

sure, maybe cut cost to 5
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macheteman
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:15 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
sickofpalantirs wrote:
macheteman wrote:
I like doing 3 cards at a time, so that will be how this whole DC expansion will go. so here’s three more!


1 The Eagles are Coming! Gandalf
Condition • Support Area
When you play this condition add a Gandalf token here.
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may add a Gandalf token here.
Fellowship: Discard this condition to play an Eagle. That Eagle’s twilight cost is -1 for every 2 tokens on this condition.
Regroup: Discard this condition and spot 2 Eagles to remove 1 for every 2 tokens on this condition. You may draw a card.
"Then he lifted up his hands and cried in a loud voice ringing above the din: The Eagles are coming!"
make it for every token for the fellowship ability. and the regroup one

2 Many Messengers Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spot an Eagle to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Reinforce a Gandalf token for each Shadow card revealed.
"The Eagles report that Orcs are gathering again from afar; but there is a hope..."
maybe a penalty for freeps cards revealed

7 We Shall Outfly! Gandalf
Event • Fellowship
Toil 2.
If you can spot Gwaihir and Landroval, and neither is exhausted, the move limit for this turn is +1.
"A North wind blows, but we shall outfly it"

sure, maybe cut cost to 5



well i thought about what you suggested SoP, but i think that for The Eagles are Coming, and We shall Outfly, would make them way too powerful. and for the other, no one would use it. but GP for your feedback!

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macheteman
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:34 pm
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle
1 Swift Tidings Gandalf
Event
Toil 1.
Fellowship, Maneuver or Regroup: Spot an Eagle and add a threat to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Remove 1 for each Free Peoples card revealed.

3Avian Vassal Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 8
To play exert an Eagle (or spot Gwaihir).
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may spot 3 Eagles (or 2 Eagles who are not exhausted) to take a Gandalf event into hand from your draw deck.
Behind them in long swift lines came all their vassals from the northern mountains, speeding on a gathering wind.

2 Hour of Doom Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Make an Eagle Strength +X until the regroup phase, where X is the number of Eagles you can spot (and defender +1 until the regroup phase, if you can spot Gandalf).
"’Stand men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom!’"
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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:40 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
macheteman wrote:
well i thought about what you suggested SoP, but i think that for The Eagles are Coming, and We shall Outfly, would make them way too powerful.

It wouldn’t make the condition too powerful if you made it unique.

macheteman wrote:
0 Swift Tidings Gandalf
Event
Fellowship, Maneuver or Regroup: Exert an Eagle and add a threat to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Remove 1 for each Fellowship card revealed.

You mean ’Free Peoples card’, but it’s interesting. Its hefty cost is I think balanced by its versatility.

macheteman wrote:
3 • Avian Vassal Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 8
To play exert an Eagle (or spot Gwaihir and add a threat).
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may spot two Eagles who are not exhausted to take a Gandalf event into hand from your draw deck.
Behind them in long swift lines came all their vassals from the northern mountains, speeding on a gathering wind.

’Two’ would conventionally be ’2’, and I don’t think he needs to add a threat with Gwaihir.

macheteman wrote:
2 Hour of Doom Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
You may spot Gandalf to not pay the twilight cost of this card.
Make an Eagle defender +1 until the regroup phase, for each Eagle you can spot.
"’Stand men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom!’"

I’d suggest a change in the wording of the card to:

’While you can spot Gandalf, this event’s twilight cost is -2.
Make an Eagle defender +1 for each Eagle you can spot until the regroup phase.’

Interesting, but I think too good, and a serious BA9. Just a simple defender +1 would be more than enough for this card methinks.

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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:50 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
macheteman wrote:
0 Swift Tidings Gandalf
Event
Fellowship, Maneuver or Regroup: Exert an Eagle and add a threat to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Remove 1 for each Fellowship card revealed.

I would take out the exertion, make it spot an Eagle instead, raise the cost to 1, and give it toil 1. Thumbs Up

macheteman wrote:
3Avian Vassal Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 8
To play exert an Eagle (or spot Gwaihir and add a threat).
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may spot two Eagles who are not exhausted to take a Gandalf event into hand from your draw deck.
Behind them in long swift lines came all their vassals from the northern mountains, speeding on a gathering wind.

I would add hunter 1. Smile

macheteman wrote:
2 Hour of Doom Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
You may spot Gandalf to not pay the twilight cost of this card.
Make an Eagle defender +1 until the regroup phase, for each Eagle you can spot.
"’Stand men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom!’"

Wow! Shocked This is pretty much the game in the bag, since you can make one Eagle take on several minions, saving the rest of your [presumably] beaten and battered fellowship from harm. I would make it strength +1 for each Eagle instead, tack on a +4 or +5 limit, and drop the Gandalf piece. Thumbs Up
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:00 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
macheteman wrote:
0 Swift Tidings Gandalf
Event
Fellowship, Maneuver or Regroup: Exert an Eagle and add a threat to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Remove 1 for each Fellowship card revealed.
get rid of one of the phases. 3 is just cluttered

3Avian Vassal Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 8
To play exert an Eagle (or spot Gwaihir and add a threat).
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may spot two Eagles who are not exhausted to take a Gandalf event into hand from your draw deck.
Behind them in long swift lines came all their vassals from the northern mountains, speeding on a gathering wind.
cool!

2 Hour of Doom Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
You may spot Gandalf to not pay the twilight cost of this card.
Make an Eagle defender +1 until the regroup phase, for each Eagle you can spot.
"’Stand men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom!’"

make it you may spot gandalf to play this event for free. cool! BUUTTT stops site 9 swarms a wittle TOO easily IMHO throw on a limit.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:14 pm
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macheteman wrote:
0 Swift Tidings Gandalf
Event
Fellowship, Maneuver or Regroup: Exert an Eagle and add a threat to reveal the top 5 cards of an opponent’s draw deck.
Remove 1 for each Fellowship card revealed.

Nice. Why Maneuver?

3Avian Vassal Gandalf
Companion • Eagle
Strength: 6
Vitality: 3
Resistance: 8
To play exert an Eagle (or spot Gwaihir and add a threat).
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may spot two Eagles who are not exhausted to take a Gandalf event into hand from your draw deck.
Behind them in long swift lines came all their vassals from the northern mountains, speeding on a gathering wind.

Meh. Weak. I’d drop the twilight cost to 2. Its good anyway. Or drop the spotting ability. As is, its to weak to use for a conditional draw deck grab.

2 Hour of Doom Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
You may spot Gandalf to not pay the twilight cost of this card.
Make an Eagle defender +1 until the regroup phase, for each Eagle you can spot.
"’Stand men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom!’"

While you can spot Gandalf, the twilight cost of this event is -2. Also, should be "Spot X eagles to make an Eagle defender +X until the regroup phase.

I’d make it assignment phase. That way you can drop the until the regroup phase. Plus, assignment stuff is really underdeveloped.
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