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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:20 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Celebrimbor wrote:

•Gil-galad Lord of all Elves Elven

Companion • Elf
Strength: 9
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
Lord.
Each other Lord is strength +1.
Skirmish: Play an Elven

possession or artifact on Gil-galad and exert him to discard a minion he is skirmishing. (limit once per turn)
...and of his name, it means Star-Tree.
hum...I still think it should be wound. denying them the twilight from the possession is good enough, so a wound would be good

•Mighty Legion of Sauron Sauron

Minion • Orc
Strength: 20
Vitality: 5
Site Number: 6
Legion. Fierce. Damage +1.
For each other Legion minion you can spot, this minion is twilight -1.
Many, many orcs...flowing out the gates of Mordor...

twilight COST -1.you can safely cut the cost 4, even with the ability. sauron is 16(18?) so 16 would be fine with twilight deduction. I like what you are getting at (concepts and all), you just need more experience

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Thranduil

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:09 am

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

Celebrimbor wrote:

•Gil-galad Lord of all Elves Elven

Companion • Elf
Strength: 9
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
Lord.
Each other Lord is strength +1.
Skirmish: Play an Elven

possession or artifact on Gil-galad and exert him to discard a minion he is skirmishing. (limit once per turn)
...and of his name, it means Star-Tree.

Make it at the star of the skirmish and wound, then add a huge spotting requirement on Gil-Galad (like 3 Elves or 3 Lords) while bringing his resistance down to 6 and he might be balanced.

Celebrimbor wrote:

•Mighty Legion of Sauron Sauron

Are there any legion companions? If not, then you don’t need to say minion, and ’legion’ doesn’t need to be capitalised (it’s like ’hunter’ or ’fierce’). Oh and take his vitality down to 4 - 5 is for Balrogs and Maia!

As regarding keywords, it’s clear from the title of your set that lord and legion have to intertwine. How about something to do with assignments (that’s always good - lurker’s one of my favourite keywords!)?

Lord suggests nobility or heroism, so how about something when they’re the only ones assigned to a skirmish? Or when they’re fighting minions of a certain strength higher than them, or of a certain strength?

Legion suggests masses and swarms, so how about something to do with assigning multiple minions to the same companion? Or getting a bonus when other minions are assigned? Or giving a penalty companions they’re not assigned to?

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:16 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

I still like them best unloaded.

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Celebrimbor

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:52 pm

Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN

Yeah I’d have to agree with SoP for now. I mean, those keywords will do just fine unloaded.

OK I’ll edit Gil-galad and the Mighty Legion a bit. And for now, what better time than this is introducing the first card in the set, The One Ring?

•The One Ring, Only Fair Work of Sauron Ring

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AgentDrake

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:37 pm

Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 667 Location: Halfway between eccentric and insane...

Well, coming from someone with almost zero ability to balance things, I would say that allowing threats instead of burdens could be a problem, although I think I like the wounding. *Maybe* make it exert twice, because it’s (generally) easier to heal than to remove burdens.

Or else add some sort of resistance -loss or make it add two burdens while wearing the ring.
I like the cost to wear, though.

Interesting.

for a creative way to put it on.

...at least, I don’t think any one else has used that before. But then, I could be wrong.

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lem0nhead

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:50 am

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island

Celebrimbor wrote:

•Gil-galad Lord of all Elves Elven

Companion • Elf
Strength: 9
Vitality: 4
Resistance: 8
Lord.
Each other Lord is strength +1.
Skirmish: Play an Elven

possession or artifact on Gil-galad and exert him to discard a minion he is skirmishing. (limit once per turn)
...and of his name, it means Star-Tree.

Muuuuuch better but i still think its too powerful. You can transfer a possession from him next turn so he is freed up again. and you can discard the rog, sauron or anything each turn.

•Mighty Legion of Sauron Sauron

Vitality: +1
Maneuver: Discard a free peoples card from play to wear the One Ring until the end of the regroup phase.
While wearing the One Ring, each time the Ring-bearer is about to take a wound, add a burden instead.
While not wearing the One Ring, each time the Ring-bearer is about to take a burden, you may wound the ring-bearer or add a threat instead.
"I will not suffer any harm to be done to this thing...Of all the works of Sauron the only fair"
001

Tell me if you think this is way too broken.

Yeah. In a word. Its a great idea and is certainly a cool mechanism but definately not balanced. Basically this stop corruption decks dead. I like how you wear it and i like an ability that relies on you not wearing it, but as it is, its not balanced.

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sickofpalantirs

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:31 pm

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.

Celebrimbor wrote:

•The One Ring, Only Fair Work of Sauron Ring

debating the balance. this would be the common one right? if so, fine. if it is supposed to be the "rare" one it needs to be better.

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Thranduil

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:19 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:

I still think that Gil-Galad needs to be toned down. He should have a huge spotting requirement - I think 2 or 3 lords is best - and then bringing his resistance down to 6, as I don’t think he deserves such a high resistance anyway.

On the Ring, the first two lines are great but the third is I think far too good. Keeping with the theme, you could convert wounds into threats without wearing the ring, or burdens to 2 wounds or 2 threats (not both), but any less than that I think will be too good. The idea is very interesting though.

Thranduil

Celebrimbor

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:16 pm

Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN

OK Gil-galad finally Toned way down. He has a spotting requirement of 2 Lords to play. In addition, instead of discarding the minion, he wounds it twice.

SoP: Yes I guess this ring is more or less on the "rare" side. in what way would you suggest it be better?

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Celebrimbor

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:18 pm

Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN

Sorry for the double-post.

I know what I want the Lord keyword to be. It is a loaded keyword, and does this:

Each Lord not the same culture of this lord is strength +1. Simple, but powerful.

So, if you have a dwarf lord, an elf lord, and a gondor lord in play, they will all have a str +3 bonus.

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