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| elf lvr |
![]() Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:29 am |
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Does it really?
I think it’s cool to have an extremely splashable card that doesn’t have a culture, because then shadow cards can’t abuse any multi-culture-ness, because there’s no other culture!
I think a card could be "culture-less" and though I’m not sure how it would be represented on a card, I think it’s something a DC maker has a right to change. It wouldn’t break the game, so long as it’s just one card (unlike some card made for mass  burden removal or lots of  damage +1 stuff) I don’t think there’s really any problem with it. |
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| NBarden |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:41 pm |
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elf lvr wrote: Does it really?
I think it’s cool to have an extremely splashable card that doesn’t have a culture, because then shadow cards can’t abuse any multi-culture-ness, because there’s no other culture!
I think a card could be "culture-less" and though I’m not sure how it would be represented on a card, I think it’s something a DC maker has a right to change. It wouldn’t break the game, so long as it’s just one card (unlike some card made for mass burden removal or lots of damage +1 stuff) I don’t think there’s really any problem with it.
There isn’t in theory, but like you said, how would you represent it on the card?
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| AgentDrake |
![]() Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:16 pm |
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On a physical card or on a DC?
On a physical card, have a separate template for the cultureless ones, something grey, probably.
On a DC, just don’t have the culture on there.
Although if it was to have a culture, it would probably go into  due to precedent. |
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| Celebrimbor |
![]() Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:36 pm |
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*actually, I unintentionally left out the culture* 
But now that it seems to be catching on, I like it! It’s just like smeagol without a race, accept this is for the culture.
I’m dickering with myself a lot about the Legion keyword...and came up with something "creative".
Legion X. When you play this minion, if you can spot X other minions of this minion’s culture, you may discard a free peoples condition or follower.
Is it too broken? |
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| Thranduil |
![]() Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:02 am |
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Celebrimbor wrote: *actually, I unintentionally left out the culture*
But now that it seems to be catching on, I like it! It’s just like smeagol without a race, accept this is for the culture.
I’m dickering with myself a lot about the Legion keyword...and came up with something "creative".
Legion X. When you play this minion, if you can spot X other minions of this minion’s culture, you may discard a free peoples condition or follower.
Is it too broken?
I don’t know about broken, it just feels a bit too complicated.
Perhaps something else on the same lines:
Legion X - When you play this minion, you may make the Free Peoples player discard a Free Peoples card from play with a twilight cost of X or more.
It would have to be guarded so that it didn’t approach companion cost too often, but I think it works. It doesn’t have the swarm requirement that yours does, but it does make higher numbers better and makes sense for a legion to be rampaging and discarding things.
Alternatively, you could have two parameters called X. So it would be:
Legion X - When you play this minion, you may spot X minions of the same culture to make the Free Peoples player discard a Free Peoples card of a twilight cost of X or more.
But I like it less being even more complicated.
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| sickofpalantirs |
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| i personally like CBB"s, and if you let the freeps choose which to discard I think it would be nicely balanced. |
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| Celebrimbor |
![]() Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:16 pm |
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It’s not complicated. It’s that I probably won’t paranthesize the whole text of the keyword as helper text.
Legion needs to be about many minions in play, "swarmish".
How’s this?
Legion X - When you play this minion, you may spot X other minions of the same culture to play another minion from the same culture from your discard pile.
So, if I play a Legion 5  minion, and spot 5 other minions, I play a minion from my discard.
I hope people can agree on this version more easily. |
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| AgentDrake |
![]() Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:33 pm |
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| Actually, I really like the "When you play this minion, if you can spot X other minions of this minion’s culture, you may discard a free peoples condition or follower. " idea. Should be a pretty high number, to keep it from being broken, but... |
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| Celebrimbor |
![]() Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:37 pm |
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OK, I’ll go with discarding follower/condition. Legion minions are still kind of shaping up now, as I’m experimenting with potential prototypes.
Here’s the next installment! This time I didn’t forget the culture:
 Orc Defiler 
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
When the first Legion minion comes into play while you can spot this minion, you may discard a free peoples possession. Then discard this minion.
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