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menace64
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:41 pm
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Wichita, Kansas
Celebrimbor wrote:

4 Orc Defiler Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
When the first Orc Legion minion comes into play while you can spot this minion, you may discard a free peoples possession. Then discard this minion.


Some serious rewording is needed here. As long as the Defiler is using its text, it’s in play, so you don’t need to spot it.

"Shadow: If you cannot spot an Orc legion, play an Orc legion and discard this minion to discard a Free Peoples possession."

I assume that’s what you’re shooting for.
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Celebrimbor
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:48 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
Doesn’t matter how many other legions are in play. I just wanted to limit him to using the ability 1 time, but then he discards himself...

This is much better:

4 Orc Defiler Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
Shadow: Play an Orc legion to discard a Free Peoples Condition or Follower. Discard this minion.
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menace64
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:59 pm
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 836 Location: Wichita, Kansas
All right. I’d still drop the cost to 3, and then make sure to lowercase condition and follower.
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Thranduil
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:29 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Celebrimbor wrote:
4 Orc Defiler Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
When the first Orc Legion minion comes into play while you can spot this minion, you may discard a free peoples possession. Then discard this minion.

Are any legions going to be non-minions? I think it’s cooler to just say ’legion’, and you might not need to capitalise it in the same you don’t ’fierce’ or ’minion’. I’d also cut his cost to 3, though I’m not sure I fully understand his ability. Can you explain your intentions?

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:30 pm
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yeah I think 3 would be perfect. good first DC. Pm incoming about something.
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Celebrimbor
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:13 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
3 Orc Defiler Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
Shadow: Play an Orc legion to discard a Free Peoples condition or follower. Discard this minion.[/quote]

All right so 3 twilight seems balanced...Just wanted to make sure he wasn’t too broken.

Next DC? Obviously now the Legions will specialize in disabling the main defense of the free peoples player, in the form of conditions/possessions, most ideally tearing apart dwarves.

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Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site Number: 4
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"They could rush in and wreak havoc, regardless of the strength of the weapons of the defender."
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Thranduil
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:35 pm
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Furious Orc Charger works, but I don’t like it that much. I’d prefer something simpler like ’While skirmishing a companion not bearing a possession...’ or something like that. Also, just remember to bold damage +1.

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NBarden
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:46 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Celebrimbor wrote:
3 Orc Defiler Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
Shadow: Play an Orc legion to discard a Free Peoples condition or follower. Discard this minion.

Huh? If he’s 3, make him AT LEAST strength 8. The ability is a 3 ability, but only on a slightly larger minion. And instead of discard this minion, exert him.

All right so 3 twilight seems balanced...Just wanted to make sure he wasn’t too broken.

Next DC? Obviously now the Legions will specialize in disabling the main defense of the free peoples player, in the form of conditions/possessions, most ideally tearing apart dwarves.

4 Furious Orc Charger Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site Number: 4
While the character this minion is skirmishing is bearing less possessions than this minion’s vitality, this minion is strength +2 and damage +1.
"They could rush in and wreak havoc, regardless of the strength of the weapons of the defender."

Vitality 4, IMO.
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:24 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Celebrimbor wrote:
3 Orc Defiler Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 5
Vitality: 2
Site Number: 4
Shadow: Play an Orc legion to discard a Free Peoples condition or follower. Discard this minion.

I guess you could up to 6-8. but don’t make it exert. think with wargs...

4 Furious Orc Charger Orc
Minion • Orc
Strength: 9
Vitality: 3
Site Number: 4
While the character this minion is skirmishing is bearing less possessions than this minion’s vitality, this minion is strength +2 and damage +1.
"They could rush in and wreak havoc, regardless of the strength of the weapons of the defender."[/quote]
cool!
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:06 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
OK my and celebrimbor exchanged a few PM’s, and decided I would do the lords, and he would do the legions. So I will start a different thread and begin with a Gondor lord.
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