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Which theme do you want me to start the final set in this block on?

Dale and the Kingdom Under the Mountain  
9%
  [ 1 ]  9%
 
The White Council  
45%
  [ 5 ]  45%
 
The Shire and the Tooks  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 
Smaug  
9%
  [ 1 ]  9%
 
The War of the Dwarves and Orcs  
9%
  [ 1 ]  9%
 
Dol Guldur and the Necromancer  
27%
  [ 3 ]  27%
 

Total Votes : 11
sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:17 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:
I’
1 • Elladan and • Elrohir Elven
Follower
Str: +1
Res: -3
Composite.
Aid - exert a minion.
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
But here brothers... were out upon errantry, for they rode often far afield with the Rangers of the North...
H3 U 32
whats composite mean again? works for me!

1 • Arwen , Daughter of Celebrian Elven
Follower
Str: -1
Aid - heal a White Council member.
Bearer is strength -1 for each burden.
So it was that Frodo saw her whom few mortals had yet seen, Arwen, daughter of Elrond, in whom it was said that the likeness of Luthien had come on earth again...
H3 C 26
cut the str. -1 bonus and just keep the abilities

2 • Legolas, Mirkwood Liberator Elven
Follower
Str: +2
Aid - reveal the top card of your draw deck.
Legolas may only be borne by a White Council member.
If bearer wins a skirmish, add 2 burdens.
’I am at home among trees, by root or bough...’
H3 C 41

ouch... cut cost to 1
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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:08 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
I’ve decided I’m not going to wait any longer, because I’m going up to Nottingham this evening and won’t be online much if at all until Thursday, and if anyone has any strong opinions, they can catch up afterwards.

Looks like Mr Ironfoot must be ill again.

1 • Elladan and • Elrohir Elven
Follower
Str: +1
Res: -3
Composite.
Aid - exert a minion.
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
But here brothers... were out upon errantry, for they rode often far afield with the Rangers of the North...
H3 U 32

Maybe only needs resistance -2.

1 • Arwen , Daughter of Celebrian Elven
Follower
Str: -1
Aid - heal a White Council member.
Bearer is strength -1 for each burden.
So it was that Frodo saw her whom few mortals had yet seen, Arwen, daughter of Elrond, in whom it was said that the likeness of Luthien had come on earth again...
H3 C 26

Dont think you need the strength -1 as well as the gametext, maybe res -1.

2 • Legolas, Mirkwood Liberator Elven
Follower
Str: +2
Aid - reveal the top card of your draw deck.
Legolas may only be borne by a White Council member.
If bearer wins a skirmish, add 2 burdens.
’I am at home among trees, by root or bough...’
H3 C 41

Bloody hell, nice try with the balance but makes it nasty. Suppose you wouldnt transfer him if you needed bearer in a fight so ok.

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Thranduil
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:08 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Composite just means that the one card counts as all named personae, so you couldn’t play either Elladan or Elrohir with that follower in play, or vice versa.

Changed cards according to suggestions, but I’ll wait a bit on new ones - you never know, another review might emerge out of the woodwork!

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:09 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
you can always hope AP EL or dain will decide to drop in...
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elf lvr
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:36 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
*Drops In*

OW! I fell on my head! Embarassed

Thranduil wrote:

1 • Elladan and • Elrohir Elven
Follower
Str: +1
Res: -2
Composite.
Aid - exert a minion.
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
But here brothers... were out upon errantry, for they rode often far afield with the Rangers of the North...
H3 U 32


Seems really weak to me. A high spotting requirement and a big downturn to the companion they’re transfered to. Even with the aid cost the way it is, I’d like it more for an archery deck than anything.

Quote:
1 • Arwen , Daughter of Celebrian Elven
Follower
Res: -1
Aid - heal a White Council member.
Bearer is strength -1 for each burden.
So it was that Frodo saw her whom few mortals had yet seen, Arwen, daughter of Elrond, in whom it was said that the likeness of Luthien had come on earth again...
H3 C 26


Isn’t there a better healing card I could be using?

Quote:
2 • Legolas, Mirkwood Liberator Elven
Follower
Str: +2
Aid - reveal the top card of your draw deck.
Legolas may only be borne by a White Council member.
If bearer wins a skirmish, add 2 burdens.
’I am at home among trees, by root or bough...’
H3 C 41


Whoa. Skirmish downside seems really harsh. With such a focus on resistance, winning a skirmish with this one follower one time could kill the whole strategy for the rest of the game.

Maybe I missed some awesome follower cards earlier, but I don’t get these.
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Thranduil
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:11 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
elf lvr wrote:
Maybe I missed some awesome follower cards earlier, but I don’t get these.

Fair enough, but do you have any suggestions?

Oh, and there are some cards probably worth bearing in mind from the first set of which half the Elven strategy was built on followers, especially A Little Out of Your Way and Secret Valley which tie in directly to telepathy.

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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:50 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
As lem0n speculated, I have indeed been ill. But this time it wasn’t headaches! Even stout Dwarves fall to their knees when the almighty cold takes hold, and that has been the case for the last few days. But while I am not yet 100%, I AM trying to get back in the swing of things. So let’s do this!

Thranduil wrote:
1 • Elladan and • Elrohir Elven
Follower
Str: +1
Res: -2
Composite.
Aid - exert a minion.
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
But here brothers... were out upon errantry, for they rode often far afield with the Rangers of the North...
H3 U 32

It ain’t bad. But to make it a little better, consider one of the following options:

- Make bearer an archer.
- Change the aid "cost" to something else and instead exert each minion assigned to skirmish bearer at the start of each skirmish involving bearer. Then it becomes a bit more useful with fierce minions.

Thranduil wrote:
1 • Arwen , Daughter of Celebrian Elven
Follower
Res: -1
Aid - heal a White Council member.
Bearer is strength -1 for each burden.
So it was that Frodo saw her whom few mortals had yet seen, Arwen, daughter of Elrond, in whom it was said that the likeness of Luthien had come on earth again...
H3 C 26

Kinda...useless, in my opinion. It ain’t a terrible way to heal, but the potential downside simply does not justify the upside. This might be a good one to simply make resistance -2 and drop the strength reducing part entirely.

Thranduil wrote:
2 • Legolas, Mirkwood Liberator Elven
Follower
Str: +2
Aid - reveal the top card of your draw deck.
Legolas may only be borne by a White Council member.
If bearer wins a skirmish, add 2 burdens.
’I am at home among trees, by root or bough...’
H3 C 41

Make it just one burden, and/or make bearer an archer. The latter would actually make it okay, I think, and make a LOT of sense.
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Thranduil
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:04 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Nice to hear your dulcet tones, Dain. Cards changed according to your suggestions (more or less).

Now moving into telepathy as promised. You’ve already seen the Forearmed for White Council members, well here are some more on that theme.

2 Power of Spell Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Spot a White Council member to reveal the top card of your draw deck. You may Lock X cards until the end of the regroup phase, where X is the twilight cost of the card revealed.
... Saruman knew in his heart that the Grey Wanderer had the greater strength... even though he hid his power...
H3 C 76

1 Song of Power Elven
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Reveal the top card of your draw deck. If that card has twilight cost 3 or more, you may make a White Council member gain terror 1 (or terror 2 if the revealed card is a spell or follower) until the regroup phase.
’The river of this valley is under his power, and it will rise in anger when he has great need...’
H3 U 47

And an extension of the terror theme and the Song of Power:

2 • Masters of Light Elven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
Locked: Each member of the White Council with terror X is resistance +X.
Response: If a character with terror X is assigned to a skirmish, wound another character X times. Discard this condition.
And Curunir... was chosen to be their chief for he had most studied the devices of Sauron of old.
H3 C 44

1 Terror of the White Elven
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Spot a White Council member with terror X to Lock all keywords on X minions until the regroup phase.
In the likeness of Men they appeared, old but vigorous...
H3 C 48

Thranduil
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:34 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:


1 Power of Spell Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Spot a White Council member to reveal the top card of your draw deck. You may Lock X cards until the end of the regroup phase, where X is the twilight cost of the card revealed.
... Saruman knew in his heart that the Grey Wanderer had the greater strength... even though he hid his power...
H3 C 76
up cost to 2

1 Song of Power Elven
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Reveal the top card of your draw deck. If that card has twilight cost 3 or more, you may make a White Council member gain terror 1 (or terror 2 if the revealed card is a spell or follower) until the regroup phase.
’The river of this valley is under his power, and it will rise in anger when he has great need...’
H3 U 47
nice!

2 • Masters of Light Elven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
Locked: Each member of the White Council with terror X is resistance +X.
Response: If a character with terror X is assigned to a skirmish, wound another character X times. Discard this condition.
And Curunir... was chosen to be their chief for he had most studied the devices of Sauron of old.
H3 C 44
noice

1 Terror of the White Elven
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Spot a White Council member with terror X to Lock all keywords on X minions until the regroup phase.
In the likeness of Men they appeared, old but vigorous...
H3 C 48

up cost to 2
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lem0nhead
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:06 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:


1 Power of Spell Gandalf
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Spot a White Council member to reveal the top card of your draw deck. You may Lock X cards until the end of the regroup phase, where X is the twilight cost of the card revealed.
... Saruman knew in his heart that the Grey Wanderer had the greater strength... even though he hid his power...
H3 C 76

Seems excessivley hard, maybe cost 3.

1 Song of Power Elven
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Reveal the top card of your draw deck. If that card has twilight cost 3 or more, you may make a White Council member gain terror 1 (or terror 2 if the revealed card is a spell or follower) until the regroup phase.
’The river of this valley is under his power, and it will rise in anger when he has great need...’
H3 U 47

Hmmm ok i guess. No downside if its less than 3, maybe discard it?

2 • Masters of Light Elven
Condition • Support Area
To play, spot 3 White Council members.
Locked: Each member of the White Council with terror X is resistance +X.
Response: If a character with terror X is assigned to a skirmish, wound another character X times. Discard this condition.
And Curunir... was chosen to be their chief for he had most studied the devices of Sauron of old.
H3 C 44

The locked ability is fine, the other is awesome.

1 Terror of the White Elven
Event • Maneuver
Spell.
Spot a White Council member with terror X to Lock all keywords on X minions until the regroup phase.
In the likeness of Men they appeared, old but vigorous...
H3 C 48

Fine.

Thranduil
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"No fair! And all I got was an oily unconscious steward!" ~ Pippin.
"Okay, stop me if you've heard this one. An elf, a man, and a dwarf walk into the Riddermark..." ~ Eomer

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