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Which theme do I continue with?

Dale and the Kingdom Under the Mountain  
27%
  [ 3 ]  27%
 
The Shire and The Tooks  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 
Smaug  
9%
  [ 1 ]  9%
 
The War of the Dwarves and Orcs  
0%
  [ 0 ]  0%
 
Dol Guldur and the Necromancer  
63%
  [ 7 ]  63%
 

Total Votes : 11
DáinIronfoot
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:36 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
5 • Thror, King Under the Mountain Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 8
Vit: 5
Res: 5
Thror’s twilight cost is -1 for each Dwarf and each Gandalf Man you can spot.
Skirmish: Exert Thror to make a companion bearing an artifact strength +2 (limit +4).
He was a little crazed perhaps with age and misfortune and long brooding on the splendour of Moria in his forefathers’ days...
H3 R 25

MAYBE limit that last ability to Dwarves and Men.

Thranduil wrote:
4 • Girion, Lord of Dale Gandalf
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 6
While you can spot a Dwarf and a Gandalf Man, Girion’s twilight cost is -2.
At the start of each skirmish involving Girion and a wounded minion, you may reinforce a Gandalf token (or 2 Gandalf tokens if he bears an artifact).
’... in your hoard is mingled much of the wealth of his halls and towns...’
H3 R 65

I think that "he" should be "Girion" for a little more clarity. But he’s nifty. I like how he can start with, say, Gimli and another Gandalf Man.

Thranduil wrote:
2 Spear of King Bladorthin Dwarven
Str: +2
Res: -2
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or a Gandalf Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he or she is damage +1.
... each had a thrice-forged head and their shafts were inlaid with cunning gold...
H3 C 12

I know exactly where this is from. Good find. Thumbs Up Oh, and nice card. Though with the drawback and spotting requirements, it might be okay at 1.

Oh, and I just noticed that this and the last card lack card types. I assume they’re supposed to be "Companion • Man" and "Artifact • Hand Weapon"?

Thranduil wrote:
3 Wraith of Dol Guldur Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 6
Enduring.
To assign this minion to a skirmish, the Free Peoples player must exert it or add a burden.
H3 C 137

Might be better at 6 strength, or maybe 4.

Thranduil wrote:
6 • Ulaire Attea, Khamul of Dol Guldur Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Str: 12
Vit: 3
Sit: 3
Enduring.
Each Wraith minion that is not exhausted is terror 1.
H3 R 177

Is it "is terror 1" or "gains terror 1"?

Also, this should probably have text that prevents exerting him during the skirmish phase, as other enduring Nazzies have.

Thranduil wrote:
0 Threat of Darkness Wraith
Event • Assignment
Spell.
Make a Wraith minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to add X threats. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 C 175

Yes! Shadow spells! Thumbs Up Should the second "terror" be bolded?

I still vote for Dale/Erebor first.
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lem0nhead
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:35 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:

1. The Kingdom Under the Mountain

5 • Thror, King Under the Mountain Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 8
Vit: 5
Res: 5
Thror’s twilight cost is -1 for each Dwarf and each Gandalf Man you can spot.
Skirmish: Exert Thror to make a Dwarf or Gandalf Man bearing an artifact strength +2 (limit +4).
He was a little crazed perhaps with age and misfortune and long brooding on the splendour of Moria in his forefathers’ days...
H3 R 25

Sweetly balanced dude.

4 • Girion, Lord of Dale Gandalf
Companion • Man
Str: 7
Vit: 4
Res: 6
While you can spot a Dwarf and a Gandalf Man, Girion’s twilight cost is -2.
At the start of each skirmish involving Girion and a wounded minion, you may reinforce a Gandalf token (or 2 Gandalf tokens if Girion bears an artifact).
’... in your hoard is mingled much of the wealth of his halls and towns...’
H3 R 65

Could start him with gimli and a gandalf man. Hmmm seems a bit good. Nice gametext.

1 Spear of King Bladorthin Dwarven
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Res: -2
To play, spot 2 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or a Gandalf Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he or she is damage +1.
... each had a thrice-forged head and their shafts were inlaid with cunning gold...
H3 C 12

Sound.

2. Dol Guldur (apologies for the lack of lore)

Whats your excuse? Razz

3 Wraith of Dol Guldur Wraith
Minion • Wraith
Str: 7
Vit: 3
Sit: 6
Enduring.
To assign this minion to a skirmish, the Free Peoples player must exert it or add a burden.
H3 C 137

Think this should be phrased The freeps player must exert this minion or add a burden to assign it to a skirmish. Sound card.

6 • Ulaire Attea, Khamul of Dol Guldur Wraith
Minion • Nazgul
Str: 12
Vit: 3
Sit: 3
Enduring.
Each Wraith minion that is not exhausted gains terror 1.
H3 R 177

Each non exhausted wraith minion sounds better but i may be wrong. This seems so broken its untrue. Every minion??? So i play 4 wraith minions and if the freeps isnt playing archery then they have to exert 4 chars? Ouch. OP. I know theyre enduring but terror as i have said before is a much more powerful mechanism.

0 Threat of Darkness Wraith
Event • Assignment
Spell.
Make a Wraith minion lose terror X until the regroup phase to add X threats. That minion may not gain terror until the regroup phase.
H3 C 175

Sound.

Thranduil


I cant decide which to vote for. Ill stick with my decision as everyone seems to do dwarves and i havent seen too many wraith stuff in a while.
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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:45 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Given that SoP said he changed his vote, we’re now going into Dale and the Kingdom Under the Mountain. So here are some more juicy artifacts (notice their rarities Twisted Evil)

1 • Emerald Necklace of Girion Dwarven
Artifact
Res: -2
To play, spot a Gandalf Man.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, they are strength +1 for each wound on each character in their skirmish.
... made of five hundred emeralds green as grass, which he gave for the arming of his eldest son in a coat of dwarf-linked rings...
H3 R 7

2 Glittering Mail Dwarven
Artifact • Armor
Vit: +1
Res: -3
To play, spot 3 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, each minion skirmishing them is Locked.
Royal indeed did Thorin look, clad in a coat of gold-plated rings...
H3 R 10

1 • Golden Cup of Thror Dwarven
Artifact
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he is Unlocked.
Regroup: Add a burden to draw a card.
... two-handed, hammered and carven with birds and flowers whose eyes and petals were made of jewels...
H3 C 11

Thranduil
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:30 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:
Given that SoP said he changed his vote, we’re now going into Dale and the Kingdom Under the Mountain. So here are some more juicy artifacts (notice their rarities Twisted Evil)

1 • Emerald Necklace of Girion Dwarven
Artifact
Res: -2
To play, spot 2 Gandalf Men.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
Locked: While bearer has resistance 4 or more, they are strength +1 for each wound on each character in their skirmish.
... made of five hundred emeralds green as grass, which he gave for the arming of his eldest son in a coat of dwarf-linked rings...
H3 R 7
nice!

2 Glittering Mail Dwarven
Artifact • Armor
Vit: +1
Res: -3
To play, spot 3 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, each minion skirmishing them is Locked.
Royal indeed did Thorin look, clad in a coat of gold-plated rings...
H3 R 10
these cards are really hard to gauge the balance of. I would make it to play spot 2 dwarves and call it good

1 • Golden Cup of Thror Dwarven
Artifact
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he is Unlocked.
Regroup: Add a burden to draw a card.
... two-handed, hammered and carven with birds and flowers whose eyes and petals were made of jewels...
H3 C 11

cool! GP
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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:30 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
Given that SoP said he changed his vote, we’re now going into Dale and the Kingdom Under the Mountain. So here are some more juicy artifacts (notice their rarities Twisted Evil)

1 • Emerald Necklace of Girion Dwarven
Artifact
Res: -2
To play, spot 2 Gandalf Men.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
Locked: While bearer has resistance 4 or more, they are strength +1 for each wound on each character in their skirmish.
... made of five hundred emeralds green as grass, which he gave for the arming of his eldest son in a coat of dwarf-linked rings...
H3 R 7

Doesnt seem particularly good. Cost 1 for res -2 until you can unlock it? And even then isnt that great, a burden or 2 screws it up. Needs something more or it wouldnt see deck use.

2 Glittering Mail Dwarven
Artifact • Armor
Vit: +1
Res: -3
To play, spot 3 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, each minion skirmishing them is Locked.
Royal indeed did Thorin look, clad in a coat of gold-plated rings...
H3 R 10

Sweeet, but general vitality boosts arent good as DI will tell you. Needs unique or something.

1 • Golden Cup of Thror Dwarven
Artifact
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he is Unlocked.
Regroup: Add a burden to draw a card.
... two-handed, hammered and carven with birds and flowers whose eyes and petals were made of jewels...
H3 C 11

Just bearer or all bearers cards does this apply to?

Thranduil
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:46 am
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
1 • Emerald Necklace of Girion Dwarven
Artifact
Res: -2
To play, spot 2 Gandalf Men.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
Locked: While bearer has resistance 4 or more, they are strength +1 for each wound on each character in their skirmish.
... made of five hundred emeralds green as grass, which he gave for the arming of his eldest son in a coat of dwarf-linked rings...
H3 R 7

Interesting. But I agree with lem0n: this just doesn’t seem worth it.

Thranduil wrote:
2 Glittering Mail Dwarven
Artifact • Armor
Vit: +1
Res: -3
To play, spot 3 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, each minion skirmishing them is Locked.
Royal indeed did Thorin look, clad in a coat of gold-plated rings...
H3 R 10

Once again, I agree with lem0n. However, I think this is about as balanced as a general vitality booster can be, thanks to the resistance lowering. I hate to go against my normal argument, but I think this might actually be okay.

Thranduil wrote:
1 • Golden Cup of Thror Dwarven
Artifact
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he is Unlocked.
Regroup: Add a burden to draw a card.
... two-handed, hammered and carven with birds and flowers whose eyes and petals were made of jewels...
H3 C 11

Lem0n asks a good question: is the text of that Dwarf unlocked, or the text of all cards they bear unlocked? Makes a big difference.
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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elf lvr
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:06 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Thranduil wrote:


1 • Emerald Necklace of Girion Dwarven
Artifact
Res: -2
To play, spot 2 Gandalf Men.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
Locked: While bearer has resistance 4 or more, they are strength +1 for each wound on each character in their skirmish.
... made of five hundred emeralds green as grass, which he gave for the arming of his eldest son in a coat of dwarf-linked rings...
H3 R 7


If the spotting requirement were a little less hefty, I’d say it was okay.

Quote:
2 Glittering Mail Dwarven
Artifact • Armor
Vit: +1
Res: -3
To play, spot 3 Dwarves.
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Man.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, each minion skirmishing them is Locked.
Royal indeed did Thorin look, clad in a coat of gold-plated rings...
H3 R 10


One problem: is there any way to give your dwarves more resistance? Most only start with 6...

Quote:
1 • Golden Cup of Thror Dwarven
Artifact
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
While bearer has resistance 4 or more, he is Unlocked.
Regroup: Add a burden to draw a card.
... two-handed, hammered and carven with birds and flowers whose eyes and petals were made of jewels...
H3 C 11


Seems okay. How many dwarves with Locked abilities are you going to have, though?
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Thranduil
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:33 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
elf lvr wrote:
Seems okay. How many dwarves with Locked abilities are you going to have, though?

A LOT. Firstly, there’s one version of most of the 13 Dwarves with Locked abilities from the first set, then their composites from the second as well as a couple of non-unique guys, and at least one from this set can be locked, depending on circumstances.

lem0nhead wrote:
Just bearer or all bearers cards does this apply to?

Just bearer - to apply to all their cards, it would have to say so (like Up My Sleeve in my other DC thread). Why, do you think it’s not good enough then?

I Unlocked the ability on the Necklace. Good?

elf lvr wrote:
One problem: is there any way to give your dwarves more resistance? Most only start with 6...

I’m glad you asked that question Razz...

2 Ancient Axe Dwarven
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Res: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
If bearer is Ring-bound and they do not bear another artifact, discard this card from play.
Each time bearer wins a skirmish and you can spot 2 burdens, you may exert him to remove a burden.
... a silver-hefted axe in a belt crusted with scarlet stones.
H3 C 1

2 Bright Helm Dwarven
Artifact • Helm
Res: +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
If bearer is Ring-bound and they do not bear another artifact, discard this card from play.
Each time bearer is assigned to a skirmish and you can spot 3 burdens, you may Lock him until the end of the regroup phase to remove a burden.
... studded about the brim with white gems...
H3 C 3

And while we’re on the subject of artifacts:

1 Dragon’s Armoury Dwarven
Event • Fellowship
Spot a unique Dwarf and add a threat to play a Dwarven artifact from your draw deck or discard pile.
They wondered if they were still lying there unharmed in the hall below, the spears that were made for the armies of the great King Bladorthin... shields made for warriors long dead... coats of mail gilded and silvered and impenetrable...
H3 U 5

And what artifacts could be complete without a nice ring to finish it off?

0 • Ring of Vengeance, Durin’s Ring Dwarven
Artifact • Ring
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Durin III, Thror, Thrain or Thorin.
Bearer is damage +1 for each wound on him.
Locked: Response: If a Dwarven card is about to be discarded (except by a Free Peoples card), discard this artifact to prevent it.
’... it needs gold to breed gold.’
H3 R 21

Thranduil
Last edited by Thranduil on Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:16 am; edited 1 time in total'We do what we do because of who we are. If we did otherwise, we would not be ourselves.'
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:38 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:


2 Ancient Axe Dwarven
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Res: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
If bearer is Ring-bound and they do not bear another artifact, discard this card from play.
Each time bearer wins a skirmish, you may exert him to remove a burden.
... a silver-hefted axe in a belt crusted with scarlet stones.
H3 C 1
so basically the first ability only applies to the RB when he doesn’t have a ring...I think it could be cut.

2 Bright Helm Dwarven
Artifact • Helm
Res: +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
If bearer is Ring-bound and they do not bear another artifact, discard this card from play.
Each time bearer is assigned to a skirmish, you may Lock him until the end of the regroup phase to remove a burden.
... studded about the brim with white gems...
H3 C 3
works cut cost to 1 maybe

1 Dragon’s Armoury Dwarven
Event • Fellowship
Spot a unique Dwarf and add a threat to play a Dwarven artifact from your draw deck.
They wondered if they were still lying there unharmed in the hall below, the spears that were made for the armies of the great King Bladorthin... shields made for warriors long dead... coats of mail gilded and silvered and impenetrable...
H3 U 5
cool!

0 • Ring of Vengeance, Durin’s Ring Dwarven
Artifact • Ring
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Durin III, Thror, Thrain or Thorin.
Bearer is damage +1 for each wound on him.
Locked: Response: If a Dwarven card is about to be discarded (except by a Free Peoples card), discard this artifact to prevent it.
’... it needs gold to breed gold.’
H3 R 21

the lore doesn’t fit with the title...I would cut one of the possible bearers. which is your choice
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Spammers really are amazing creatures. You can learn all there is to know about their ways in a month. And yet, after a hundred years, they can still surprise you. Razz
elf lvr
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:23 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
Thranduil wrote:


2 Ancient Axe Dwarven
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +2
Res: +1
Bearer must be a Dwarf.
If bearer is Ring-bound and they do not bear another artifact, discard this card from play.
Each time bearer wins a skirmish, you may exert him to remove a burden.
... a silver-hefted axe in a belt crusted with scarlet stones.
H3 C 1


Dwarven burden removal? Yuck.

Quote:
2 Bright Helm Dwarven
Artifact • Helm
Res: +2
Bearer must be a Dwarf or Gandalf Man.
If bearer is Ring-bound and they do not bear another artifact, discard this card from play.
Each time bearer is assigned to a skirmish, you may Lock him until the end of the regroup phase to remove a burden.
... studded about the brim with white gems...
H3 C 3


I still don’t like dwarven burden removal.

You just LOVE resistance themed cards, don’t you?


Quote:
1 Dragon’s Armoury Dwarven
Event • Fellowship
Spot a unique Dwarf and add a threat to play a Dwarven artifact from your draw deck.
They wondered if they were still lying there unharmed in the hall below, the spears that were made for the armies of the great King Bladorthin... shields made for warriors long dead... coats of mail gilded and silvered and impenetrable...
H3 U 5


Okay.

Quote:
0 • Ring of Vengeance, Durin’s Ring Dwarven
Artifact • Ring
Vit: +1
Bearer must be Durin III, Thror, Thrain or Thorin.
Bearer is damage +1 for each wound on him.
Locked: Response: If a Dwarven card is about to be discarded (except by a Free Peoples card), discard this artifact to prevent it.
’... it needs gold to breed gold.’
H3 R 21


Nice one!
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