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Anonymous Prodigy
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:33 pm
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 4197 Location: United States
Thranduil wrote:
2 Gondorian Soldier Gondor
Companion • Man
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Knight.
To play, spot a Gondor Man.
While bearing a possession or artifact, this companion is damage +1.

Neat. Smile

Thranduil wrote:
2 Soldier of Arnor Gondor
Companion • Man
Str: 5
Vit: 3
Res: 6
Knight.
To play, spot a Gondor Man.
While bearing a possession or artifact, this companion is defender +1.

Suicidal companion? Razz

Thranduil wrote:
2 Soldier of the Noldor Elven
Companion • Elf
Str: 5
Vit: 3
Res: 6
To play, spot an Elf.
While bearing a possession or artifact, each minion skirmishing this companion is strength -2.

Quite nice. Thumbs Up

Thranduil wrote:
2 Soldier of Durin’s Folk Dwarven
Companion • Dwarf
Str: 6
Vit: 3
Res: 6
To play, spot a Dwarf.
While bearing a possession or artifact, this companion gains bloodlust 1.

Excellent! GP
I had to put something here.
lem0nhead
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:24 pm
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Im sure i just reviewed these, o well Razz

Yeah they all seem fine, much of a muchness.
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Thranduil
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:38 am
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Anvar wrote:
I’d give this guy strength 6. Can’t see myself using him otherwise. Too much inflation these days (look at the Elven hunters)...

Except that the Elven hunters are basically broken. Strength 10 with direct archery wounding for 2? I make it a general policy not to compare my companions to companions from Hunters block.

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Anvar
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:02 pm
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Thranduil wrote:
Anvar wrote:
I’d give this guy strength 6. Can’t see myself using him otherwise. Too much inflation these days (look at the Elven hunters)...

Except that the Elven hunters are basically broken. Strength 10 with direct archery wounding for 2? I make it a general policy not to compare my companions to companions from Hunters block.


Even so, I think these guys compare unfavourably to Lorien Swordsman. They can give a minion more than just -2 and are far less vulnerable to possession discard. I would still raise the soldier’s strength to 6.

Anvar
Thranduil
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:01 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
Okay, I haven’t made any cards for this set in quite a while, but here are some Gondor stuff to go with the Numenoreans.

Wasn’t sure whether to make these unique artifacts, non-unique artifacts or simply possessions. On the one hand, I’m not sure they warrant artifact or unique status, though they are powerful stuff from the Second Age (but technically so is a Hobbit Sword if you assume they were procured from the Barrow-Wights as happened in the book). That said, the said needs more non-legendary artifacts and there aren’t many other candidates for that. What do you think?

1 Blade of Numenor Gondor
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +1
Res: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
Bearer gains "Stalwart - remove 2".

2 Steel Bow Gondor
Possession • Ranged Weapon
Str: +1
To play, spot a Gondor artifact.
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
Archery: Exert bearer to exert a minion.

I kid you not, apparently the Numenoreans went around with bows made from steel!

2 Silver Ship of Numenor Gondor
Artifact • Support Area
To play, spot 3 Gondor Men.
Each time the fellowship moves during the regroup phase, you may remove 1.
Skirmish: Discard this artifact to exert a minion skirmishing a Gondor Man.

Thranduil
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lem0nhead
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:36 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:


1 Blade of Numenor Gondor
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +1
Res: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
Bearer gains "Stalwart - remove 2".

Seems ok.

2 White Ship of Numenor Gondor
Artifact • Boat
Vit: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you must choose to exert or heal each minion he or she is skirmishing.

You can bear a boat? Doesnt a boat bear you? Im not a fan of this at all, everything about it screams imbalanced. Wouldnt even edit it, nuke it

2 Steel Bow Gondor
Artifact • Ranged Weapon
Str: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
Archery: Exert bearer to exert a minion (or wound a roaming minion).

Wow theyre strong! How is non unique targeted archery not too powerful. Compare to naith longbow or bow of minas tirith. Sorry Thran: Veto.

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:23 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
Thranduil wrote:

1 Blade of Numenor Gondor
Artifact • Hand Weapon
Str: +1
Res: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
Bearer gains "Stalwart - remove 2".
up strength bonus to 2 maybe...

2 White Ship of Numenor Gondor
Artifact • Boat
Vit: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
At the start of each skirmish involving bearer, you must choose to exert or heal each minion he or she is skirmishing.
uh sure

2 Steel Bow Gondor
Artifact • Ranged Weapon
Str: +1
Bearer must be a Gondor Man.
Archery: Exert bearer to exert a minion (or wound a roaming minion).
l

cut cost to 1 IMDO
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Thranduil
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:31 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
lem0nhead wrote:
You can bear a boat? Doesnt a boat bear you? Im not a fan of this at all, everything about it screams imbalanced. Wouldnt even edit it, nuke it

Is there not a boat possession already for Smeagol? Can’t remember whether it’s support area or borne by him.

lem0nhead wrote:
Wow theyre strong! How is non unique targeted archery not too powerful. Compare to naith longbow or bow of minas tirith. Sorry Thran: Veto.

It’s good, but actually I’d be pressed to use it given that you need to exert (and Naith Bow and Bow of Minas Tirith are both seriously useless). What if I take out the parentheses?

Also, both of you have carefully skirted the issue I was most interested in: possession, unique artifact or non-unique artifact?

Thranduil
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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:28 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
hum...maybe the ship and non unique artifact..the others definitly possessions...and I guess keep the bow at 2 Wink
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lem0nhead
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:31 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Thranduil wrote:
lem0nhead wrote:
You can bear a boat? Doesnt a boat bear you? Im not a fan of this at all, everything about it screams imbalanced. Wouldnt even edit it, nuke it

Is there not a boat possession already for Smeagol? Can’t remember whether it’s support area or borne by him.

Its borne by him but its just a possession not a boat. And a non unique vitality plus 1 adder = FAIL. unique or nuke. Still want nuke as i dont like the balance of the ability.

lem0nhead wrote:
Wow theyre strong! How is non unique targeted archery not too powerful. Compare to naith longbow or bow of minas tirith. Sorry Thran: Veto.

It’s good, but actually I’d be pressed to use it given that you need to exert (and Naith Bow and Bow of Minas Tirith are both seriously useless). What if I take out the parentheses?

Also, both of you have carefully skirted the issue I was most interested in: possession, unique artifact or non-unique artifact?

Thranduil


I dont think the steel bow should be an artifact but the others are fine. I also strongly disagree that its balanced Thran (Bow of minas tirith is not useless, this highlights to me how much you undervalue gondor archery wounds and how much D balanced it), if i put this in my denethor exerting deck it would be really powerful i could exert whatever i wanted whenever then finish with brego and no travellers in this land and healing is not a problem for gondor. Taking out the parenthesis is the least of your worries with it and it wont make it any less powerful.
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