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Author Topic: Gondor wounding with shadow wounding.  (Read 1152 times)
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« on: December 09, 2008, 08:50:28 AM »
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Starting Fellowship
*The One Ring, The Ring of Rings (11R1)
*Boromir, Bearer of Council (RB)(9R+31)
*Denethor, Last Ruling Steward (13R64)
*Faramir, Prince of Ithilien (13C66)

Sites
0 Anduin Banks (11U227)
0 Crags of Emyn Muil (11S234)
(1) Isengard Ruined (15U192)
(1) Steward's Tomb (18U139)
(1) Expanding Marshland (11S238)
(2) West Gate of Moria (11S263)
(3) Imladris (17U147)
(3) The Prancing Pony (11S256)
(3) Trollshaw Forest (11S260)

Fellowship (34)
4x *Aragorn, Driven by Need (7P364)
2x *Garrison of Gondor (8U36)
4x Citadel Of Minas Tirith (3R40)
4x Gondor Bowmen (3R41)
3x *Aragorn's Bow, Ranger's Longbow (15R56)
1x *Boromir's Cloak (1U98)
2x *Faramir's Bow (4R118)
1x *Faramir's Cloak (4R119)
1x *Shield of Boromir (2R38)
1x Bow of Minas Tirith (11U58)
4x Ithilien Blade (15C62)
1x Ranger's Bow (4C131)
3x Ranger's Cloak (15C68)
1x Shield of the White Tree (18C57)

Shadow (34)
1x Countless Companies (12U58)
4x Howdah (13U94)
2x Pursuing Horde (15U88)
4x Whispers in the Dark (18C77)
4x *Saruman, Servant of Sauron (17R38)
3x *Black Gate Sentry (15U98)
2x *Desert Lord (4R219)
3x *Gothmog, Morgul Leader (18R80)
2x *Lurtz, Minion of the White Wizard (11R194)
4x *Mumak Commander, Giant Among the Swertings (15R86)
3x *The Mouth of Sauron, Messenger of Mordor (12S73)
2x Pavise (11C94)

Fellow: discard possessions to exert and kill with some shots. Aragorn and citadel for threat manipulation (makes aragorn shoot like #$&*@!!) and can discard some roaming problems too... (minions that cannot take wounds...)

Shadow: easy wound. whispers on saruman for free exertions, pavise on mumak commander for more free exerctions, mouth to fast setup of  countless, whispers, pavise and pursuing.. gothmog for more 3 wounds and lurtz to kill if everybody is exausted!

Any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 10:20:43 AM »
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Faramir's Bow, Ithilien Longbow (17R29) : you have no ranger  Frustrated

You have to insert Eowyn LOI in any fellow wounding.


I think pure Evil-Men archery is better  Wink.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 10:33:42 AM »
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The first thing that strikes me is that your starting fellowship is short 1 twilight! Shocked There's no reason ever to do that. You should run either Strider starting (though I understand Driven By Need supports your strategy a bit) or at the very least Wearer of Black and Silver because he's amazing and wounds minions. Other amazing Gondor wounding cards you're missing: Hardy Garrison, Soldier's Cache, Defend it and Hope, stuff like that. Also, you're running all 4 Nobe Leaders (and this applies especially if you put Strider in your starting fellowship) and so why don't you use Noble Leaders? It's really really strong and means that your deck will also win skirmishes against minions it can't kill. Also, there are some bad possession you're running which you don't need, like Boromir's Cloak, Faramir's Cloak, Shield of Boromir.

Unfortunately your shadow side has some dud cards. For example, you do realise that Whisper in the Dark has been changed so that you NEED to spot a Evil Men Man to get the exertion? And Howdah only adds tokens for Evil Men archers and you have none. Take out things like Desert Lord, Black Gate Sentry and Lurtz in favour of Evil Men archers (like Archer of Harad, Voice of the Desert, Fletcher of Harad). Then you're getting a LOT more out of Howdah and Whisper.

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 11:50:30 AM »
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The first thing that strikes me is that your starting fellowship is short 1 twilight! Shocked

Denethor = 3, Faramir = 1

Hardy Garrison needs an initiative build so I dont know how you will pull that off. I would go for a Steward's Legacy/Boromir exerting engine. Maybe Isildur, Swordbearer?
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 11:52:17 AM »
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The first thing that strikes me is that your starting fellowship is short 1 twilight! Shocked

Denethor = 3, Faramir = 1
Oh yeah! I just assumed Denethor was 2 like other versions. Whistle Gold Piece

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 03:04:32 PM »
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Faramir's Bow, Ithilien Longbow (17R29) : you have no ranger  Frustrated
You have to insert Eowyn LOI in any fellow wounding.
I think pure Evil-Men archery is better  Wink.
Changed my bow to the old Faramir's Bow, i didn't realize that i was without rangers! :\
I love Eowyn LOI, but I'm trying to make only gondor with their possessions ! Tongue
On my shadow I'm trying to do a multi cultural wound/archery deck... i know the main ideas of evil man archery.

The first thing that strikes me is that your starting fellowship is short 1 twilight! Shocked There's no reason ever to do that. You should run either Strider starting (though I understand Driven By Need supports your strategy a bit) or at the very least Wearer of Black and Silver because he's amazing and wounds minions. Other amazing Gondor wounding cards you're missing: Hardy Garrison, Soldier's Cache, Defend it and Hope, stuff like that. Also, you're running all 4 Nobe Leaders (and this applies especially if you put Strider in your starting fellowship) and so why don't you use Noble Leaders? It's really really strong and means that your deck will also win skirmishes against minions it can't kill. Also, there are some bad possession you're running which you don't need, like Boromir's Cloak, Faramir's Cloak, Shield of Boromir.

Unfortunately your shadow side has some dud cards. For example, you do realise that Whisper in the Dark has been changed so that you NEED to spot a Evil Men Man to get the exertion? And Howdah only adds tokens for Evil Men archers and you have none. Take out things like Desert Lord, Black Gate Sentry and Lurtz in favour of Evil Men archers (like Archer of Harad, Voice of the Desert, Fletcher of Harad). Then you're getting a LOT more out of Howdah and Whisper.

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Hardy garrison is a nice card, but how can i lose initiative on any phase than fellowship? I only play possessions (and these possessions are there just to be removed from the game). Soldier's cache only wound 1 time unless i play the sixt level just to bring them back.
Defend it and Hope can be used and then can trigger the Hardy garrison, but will be at least 6 cards on the fellowship... ill have to take off some possessions, and then the main ideia of the deck is over... those possessions are cheap and are there just to be removed from the game with denethor. Smiley

i want a multicultural wound, not just man wound.... some idea?

The first thing that strikes me is that your starting fellowship is short 1 twilight! Shocked

Denethor = 3, Faramir = 1

Hardy Garrison needs an initiative build so I dont know how you will pull that off. I would go for a Steward's Legacy/Boromir exerting engine. Maybe Isildur, Swordbearer?

I liked your idea of Steward's Legacy with boromir... but how can i exert him? my citadel gets rid of healing

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 03:11:06 PM »
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Stewards Legacy works great with No Travellers in this Land, Defend it and Hope, Gondor Bowmen etc.

If you are using Faramir, Prince of Ithilien in Expanded then Boromir's Gauntlets are a must. Easy defender +1 and skirmish cancel. Life saver many times. The other option to consider is starting with Aragorn, Strider and Denethor, LRS, but I'm not sure what Faramir to use instead...
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 03:20:02 PM »
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Stewards Legacy works great with No Travellers in this Land, Defend it and Hope, Gondor Bowmen etc.

If you are using Faramir, Prince of Ithilien in Expanded then Boromir's Gauntlets are a must. Easy defender +1 and skirmish cancel. Life saver many times. The other option to consider is starting with Aragorn, Strider and Denethor, LRS, but I'm not sure what Faramir to use instead...
Stewards Legacy with No travellers in this land: when i use the event i exert the minion first or i wound first and then exert another?
And i don't like strider, i like my threat removal strategy ! Tongue
How do the gauntlets give defender +1 ?!
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 03:29:59 PM »
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When you exert, Stewards Legacy triggers, so you get to exert a minion, then you wound with your event. Its a great little combo.

Read Prince of Ithilien regarding the Gauntlets.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 04:19:25 PM »
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oh, sorry... i understood wrong Tongue
im a little sleepy! =p

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 05:53:02 PM »
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oh, sorry... i understood wrong Tongue
im a little sleepy! =p

thank you for the help... gave you a gold =p

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 02:06:48 PM »
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than i can use no travellers and stewards with defenders and get rid of the minions with just 1 or 2 possessions removed from  the game per turn... wich gives me 16  possessions... this is what i have now... =\
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2008, 02:24:06 PM »
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Another mod came into MY territory and deleted a post in MY forum?  Cry


Maybe you should remove you post here too.

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Now as for the deck. All I can say is....
SHADOW ROCKS!

Possibly Grima, Footman of Saruman? I love him!

Oh, and at Nappy, doesn't hold water. Can I make my own topic then spam it to get post counts up?
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2008, 03:45:33 PM »
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Dudes, come on, life is beautifull!

Don't worry, be happy !

lol Tongue

some idea to my shadow, nbarden?  i think of using grima is hard, because i don't have a directly wound to focus on 1 companion and kill him to get lots of exertions...
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 09:19:08 PM »
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Possibly some random threat adding? Threats come easier than archery, and once you score a kill, it has a domino effect that decimates a fellowship.
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