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« on: June 01, 2008, 05:20:05 PM »
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The following, created and written for public consumption on CC:

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Everyone is new to online trading at one point or another. This guide is for all "Trading n00bs", and it will (hopefully) answer all your questions.

1: Posting Your List

The easiest way to trade is to make a list of the cards you have and the cards you want. Generally, users will only post their Rares, Foils, and Promotional cards, but some users will also post their commons, uncommons, and premiums.

Cards are usually listed by culture or by set.

Check out a couple traders' threads for some good examples of these lists.

2: How to Trade

Once you have your list of wants, browse other users' Haves lists, looking for cards you want. If you see something you want, post a reply to that list with a list of the cards you want from them. If that user has a Wants list, you can look it over and find out if you have anything they want; if so, add a list of those cards to your post.

You can work out a deal either in someone's trading topic or by Private Messaging ("PMs"). The most basic way to find if a deal is "fair" is to check the prices of the cards on Cobra Cards. If the total prices for each side of deal are about the same, some users will accept the deal. However, other factors must be added in: how much you want a card, whether a card is sold out on CC and thus cannot be bought, whether the card is decked, etc.

Once you confirm a deal, you have to work out how to send the cards...

3: Who Sends First?

Generally, if both users have several references (and no negative references), the cards can be simultaneously sent. However, if Trader #1 has no (or a small amount) of references, then Trader #2 may ask that Trader #1 sends his cards first, and once those cards are received, Trader #2 will send his part of the deal.

Check out the Trading References Thread to see how many references a trader has.

4: Addressing and Packaging the Cards

A sloppily-sent envelope can ruin a trade, and so everyone should be careful when sending cards.

When addressing an envelope, always either A) use a pen, or B) print off a label. Using a pencil is not a good idea since it can be erased easily.

Always write your return address on the envelope. That way, if you accidentally send the cards to the wrong address, your envelope will be returned to you and you can re-send them. This is also very important if you miscalculate postage.

When packaging cards, remember that the more secure the cards are the more likely they are to stay undamaged. The safest way to send cards is to use a hard, plastic case, but be warned that this will make your package heavier and can occasionally cause a non-machinable charge (meaning that the envelope is too stiff to make its way through the post office by machine). Another common way to package cards is to tape an index card to either side of the cards. This gives less protection than a plastic case, but it still is very protective and is not nearly as heavy.

5: Postage

Postage in the United States for an envelope is currently:

1 ounce or less = $0.41
2 ounces or less = $0.59
3 ounces or less = $0.75

If you are unsure as to how much an envelope weighs, then go to a post office and ask for your envelope to be weighed.

Also, be sure to check usps.com if you need some info, or if you need to calculate international postage.

6: When you Receive the Cards

Once you receive the cards you bargained for, it is a good idea to PM the other trader or post on their topic informing them that you received the cards.

A fun and nice way to end a good deal is to award a Gold Piece (GP ) to the other user in recognition of a successful trade.

And most importantly, be sure to add the other trader to your list of references!


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...Obviously, there's the fact that CC no longer exists, so you can't just check that card store for value. BUT.... this may help out a little. Don't have time to update it now.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 07:35:35 AM »
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speaking of trades, whatever happened to the mouth of sauron we were exchanging?
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 09:52:44 AM »
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Please update the postage.  Stamps from what I know now cost $0.42.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 06:01:39 PM »
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Is it acceptable to use References from other sites, as long as they're not outdated?
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 11:26:59 AM »
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Trading Ethics

First, let me say that this is in no way connected to any trader on this site, but I saw a post on another thread that I thought brought up some good points and warranted attention.

Quote from: Esteemed TLHH User
Personally, I really hate it when a certain card is "on hold" because one person asked about it first. If two people want the same card, it should go to whoever will trade more for it or trade better cards - it shouldn't AT ALL depend on who posted/emailed first. [It] is unfortunate since that's how almost everyone on this board operates.

I thought that was a valid frustration when you are trying to trade for cards that you want (need?) and I have certainly had that frustration happen many times. I did want to pass on my thoughts on "holding" cards for traders.

When a second person inquires on a card that is currently in negotiation, I always promptly explain to the second person that this card is currently being negotiated in another deal; however, they are still free to make an offer and I will keep that in mind as well. Now, because most of my trades end up being groups of cards against a few cards I am looking for, it is not hard for me to say to the first person, "I received an offer on this card from another user...I apologize but that offer is almost too good to pass up." I always give the first user an opportunity to match the offer (in value...it seems unlikely that the trader will have the same cards) on the first-come-first-serve basis.

Of course, through the art of tactful negotiation, you could remove the card in question from the first deal (particularly in larger trades), or, and I know this is a shocker, decline an offer altogether and trade with the second person.

For what it is worth, I have about 12 years of trading online experience and have never been involved in a bad trade because I operate under the simple rules of checking references and knowing who I am trading with. www.gabtraders.com is a wonderful site to check if someone has been involved in a sour deal (or more likely, mail fraud) and keeping track of references on that site, mahasamatman.com, and any other trading boards is always a good idea.

Happy trading to all.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 01:54:37 PM »
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Obviously, I'm new on TLHH, but even that's not a problem for the other traders. It seems unbelievable, but I think that this is just one of a few communities where people trust each other, which, I think, is great!

Greetings to everybody,

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2010, 07:57:04 PM »
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For all traders: I suggest that sticky-taping the top of soft sleeves is pointless and should not be done. Sticky-tape is okay to use on hard top-loaders but makes life difficult if used on soft sleeves.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 02:04:25 AM »
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I suggest all cards sent in toploaders regardless.

The last few cards I have received in sleeve only have not arrived clearly damaged by their travels.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 02:47:30 AM »
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I thought this was common knowlegde. Huh?
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 02:41:20 PM »
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I'd suggest that toploaders be sealed at the opening (I fold a piece of paper over it and tape it down--if tape is used directly, it might stick to and damage the card), or that the soft sleeve inside be slid in open end first. This is to prevent the card from sliding out and getting munched in the shipping process.
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