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November 24, 2009, 10:58:11 AM
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Promise Keeping
« on: November 24, 2009, 10:58:11 AM »
Do wound caused by threats (being placed after Gollum kills a companion in a skirmish) or You're a liar and a thief activates Promise Keeping?
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November 24, 2009, 11:16:53 AM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 11:16:53 AM »
Yes they do. Which is grim for the Free Peoples
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November 24, 2009, 11:29:36 AM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 11:29:36 AM »
I had to check this one, I felt it was too good to be true.
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November 24, 2009, 01:12:35 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 01:12:35 PM »
How come that's true..?
I'm just reading carefully the cards' text and end up with a different reasoning:
threat wounds would be placed after the skirmish ended (if it's against a [gollum] minion), and promise keeping has the word "during" that skirmish..
My guess is that threat wounds wouldn't activate promise keeping.

Thefore you can never assign threat wounds to a companion skirmishing a [gollum] minion. Because: if the threats did bust in another skirmish,  then the [gollum] minion is just an assigned minion.
Someone please tell me I'm right...¿?
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November 24, 2009, 01:53:31 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 01:53:31 PM »
Consider the order of the skirmish, it will help you understand this painful situation

Gollum (or Shelob) wins
Companion takes a wound
->Companion dies due to this wound, is placed in the dead pile
-->Threat wounds are taken due to this
Skirmish is resolved

Nothing happens in LOTR TCG simultaneously, there is always an order. The skirmish cannot resolve while their are responses taking place, such as the companion dying and then triggering threats.
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November 24, 2009, 05:15:55 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 05:15:55 PM »
wow... that is grim :D
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November 25, 2009, 09:06:25 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 09:06:25 PM »
Trying to think what if anything happens in between skirmishes, besides selecting the next skirmish. Like TJ said, the end of the skirmish phase is held up until the response chain resolves.
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March 26, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2010, 02:52:22 PM »
Quote from: TheJord on November 24, 2009, 01:53:31 PM
Consider the order of the skirmish, it will help you understand this painful situation

Gollum (or Shelob) wins
Companion takes a wound
->Companion dies due to this wound, is placed in the dead pile
-->Threat wounds are taken due to this
Skirmish is resolved

Nothing happens in LOTR TCG simultaneously, there is always an order. The skirmish cannot resolve while their are responses taking place, such as the companion dying and then triggering threats.

Thank you Thank you Thank you! Your explanation finally helped me to understand how that worked out.
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March 28, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 03:54:15 PM »
Anyone got a decklist that works off of this delightful grimness? :D
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March 28, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
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Re: Promise Keeping
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 03:55:17 PM »
Quote from: Mythdracon on March 28, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
Anyone got a decklist that works off of this delightful grimness? :D

They are all over the Lothlorien sections. Try Movie Block and Standard.
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