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July 09, 2008, 08:37:53 AM
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Birthday Present
« on: July 09, 2008, 08:37:53 AM »
With Birthday Present, are you required to show your opponent 2 different Shire-culture events in order to play the card (like it says)? 

The reason I ask is that more than one person has said your opponent HAS to choose Unheeded, for example, if that's the only Shire-culture event you have in your deck. 

Any help?

July 09, 2008, 09:42:34 AM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 09:42:34 AM »
If you only have one [Shire] event in your discard pile, then you will take that one event.
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July 09, 2008, 09:50:29 AM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 09:50:29 AM »
So part of my question is answered...but how is that possible you can get around the game-text of a card specifically saying something else? 

July 09, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 11:26:51 AM »
If all you have is one copy of Unheeded in discard, you show that.

If you have two or more copies of Unheeded in discard, and no other [Shire] events in discard, you show two copies of Unheeded. Obviously you still get to them take one into hand. In this case the "show 2 events" part takes precedence over the "two different titles" because you do not have an event with a different title to show.

If you have Unheeded and another event NOT named "Unheeded" in discard, you have to show those two differently-titled events. In this case, you cannot choose two copies of Unheeded, since you are able (whether you want to or not) to show a [Shire] event with a title other than "Unheeded".
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July 09, 2008, 11:36:02 AM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 11:36:02 AM »
But wouldn't it say "take up to 2 Shire events"? Should the event be triggered if you don't have 2 separate Shire events in the discard pile?
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July 09, 2008, 11:40:36 AM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 11:40:36 AM »
You always do as much as you can. As long as you have at least one [Shire] event in discard, you can trigger the ability.
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July 09, 2008, 11:58:01 AM
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 11:58:01 AM »
Thanks for the clarification.  And 5000 posts - well done!! :up:
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July 09, 2008, 12:31:54 PM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 12:31:54 PM »
Quote from: Ulmo
And 5000 posts - well done!! :up:

Whoa, hey. Didn't even notice that. Um...w00t?
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July 09, 2008, 01:54:43 PM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 01:54:43 PM »
If, however, you have a Birthday Present and an Unheeded in your discard pile, then there's no way to nab Unheeded....if playing an opponent with any sense at all. So its kinda a one-time thing.

Although I kinda like the No Visitors/Unheeded dilemna. :D
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July 09, 2008, 04:12:38 PM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2008, 04:12:38 PM »
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If, however, you have a Birthday Present and an Unheeded in your discard pile, then there's no way to nab Unheeded....if playing an opponent with any sense at all. So its kinda a one-time thing.

Uh...except that Birthday Present is not an event. :roll:
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July 09, 2008, 04:48:17 PM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2008, 04:48:17 PM »
So can I be sneaky and make them choose 1 card without them seeing the cards, then after they have chosen let them see the cards to show they were  [Shire] events?   :twisted:
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July 09, 2008, 04:50:16 PM
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Re: Birthday Present
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 04:50:16 PM »
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So can I be sneaky and make them choose 1 card without them seeing the cards, then after they have chosen let them see the cards to show they were  [Shire] events?   :twisted:

You could certainly TRY, but I think you'd make your opponent very unhappy when they found out the truth. I wouldn't recommend it. ;)
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