Merits of a PC

[Kenddrick]

I guess people can just migrate to the PC website that has been up-and-running since that whole talk started three years ago.
-wtk

Anyways, overreaction? Maybe you could use that "loads of money per hour" to create, moderate, and frequent the Players' Committee Website.

Why are you always targeting the PC? People are trying hard to get it up and running and you are always mocking it.

[ket_the_jet]

Why are you always targeting the PC? People are trying hard to get it up and running and you are always mocking it.

I'll let jerba handle it for me:

...a dead game...

Frankly, I think it is a dumb idea. But that's nothing new, is it?
-wtk

[Kenddrick]

Frankly, I think it is a dumb idea. But that's nothing new, is it?
-wtk

One man's opinion.

[Jerba]

Disclaimer: Jerba does not endorse the use of his words in any campaign against the creation of a PC.

[SomeRandomDude]

Why are you always targeting the PC? People are trying hard to get it up and running and you are always mocking it.

I'll let jerba handle it for me:

...a dead game...

Frankly, I think it is a dumb idea. But that's nothing new, is it?
-wtk

Or you could quit harassing people who want to try to go somewhere with the game. I've kinda moved onto other stuff, so I kinda don't care...I don't get why anyone would oppose it though. Seems like you'd either support it or not care.

[MR. Lurtzy]

Some of us don't want the game to be ruined (although I support a limited PC).

[ket_the_jet]

Seems like you'd either support it or not care.

If I thought that it would do any more good than harm, I'd be indifferent. But I honestly think that it is doing harm to the community by blurring the way to actually increase the gamer count. If you want new players, go out and introduce yourself and teach them the game.

It's a lot easier than it sounds with simple coercion. "Hey, coworker, want to come to my place after work for a beer?" Bam. That's one potential player.

"Hey, local card store owner, if you stocked these products, would you give out a promo card every time someone bought a pack (or three). Here is a collection of my spare promos and rares (or commons and uncommons to those with a smaller collection). Have them sign a list and let's host a tournament!"

Be #$&*@! grassroots. Love you, Kenddrick, but a PC isn't bringing me any closer to anyone in Singapore. Hop on GCCG, and I'll play you there though.

So in short, people who could be actively helping their community's gamers are wasting resources on pipe dreams.
-wtk

[chompers]

Ket - see here we are on the other side of the fence thinking that the opposition is doing more harm than good. Perhaps both sides of the fence need to look at each others arguments and then we work together to achieve a common goal.

In the end, the lack of cohesion amongst members on this forum is doing more harm than good. Both parties are at fault because we can't work out how to work together.

You see when I first started using these boards I loved LOTR. But my experiences using these boards have not always been positive. As a result, I am starting to move away from LOTR. From my perspective, this lack of cohesion is doing more harm than good. I can't speak for anyone else however.

I believe so strongly in a PC because I stopped playing Star Trek CCG when Decipher lost its licence. I played Star Trek right from its infancy in 1994, ran tournaments, everything really. Two years later, I found out that Star Trek was still alive and kicking and supported by a strong PC which was releasing new v-cards, errata for broken combos, rules support, tournament support, and so on. I thought to myself "wow - i can keep playing Star Trek and the game will continue to evolve." I am a sucker for new playing experiences (I am not saying LOTR doesn't do this, in fact with so many formats it is probably one of its strengths. The format issue also provides one of the biggest barriers to moving forward.

To summarise, I now spend most of my time playing Star Trek and that is only because there is an active Star Trek community in my area. That community is active because Star Trek has an active PC. But I still care enough about LOTR to keep coming back here, hoping that something may have changed, and the lack of cohesion may have come to an end.

After 6 months or more on arguing and being inflexible towards other peoples points of view perhaps it is time we all put our heads together in a positive way, put differences aside, and work out how to stop this division. If we all work together, the future of LOTR is better than if we all oppose each other.

[MR. Lurtzy]

There is no problem in promoting the game, and tourneys. I think it could be possible to have a PC for that, but it would not be absolutely necessary. And there should be no rules changes, bannings, or new cards. As long as any of those bolded items are in the goals of the PC, I will vehemently oppose it.

[ket_the_jet]

Star Trek: took a PC to get you into it.

LotR: No PC necessary.

Flawed argument, as this site seemed to do the trick itself.
-wtk

[Kralik]

rules changes, bannings, or new cards.

This is what people commonly think of when they want a PC. Everyone can promote the game, a "committee" makes the rules.

[MR. Lurtzy]

Exactly, which is why I oppose it.

[MuadDib85]

And there should be no rules changes, bannings, or new cards.

Agreed.

This is the only reason I would not want a PC.

[ket_the_jet]

People who support the PC should want everything. People who want a so-called "limited PC" have it right here. A place for members of the LotR community to meet worldwide and trade, play (via GCCG), and interact. You can promote your tournaments and whatnot here. I don't see what this doesn't accomplish that a "limited PC" would.
-wtk

[ket_the_jet]

Oh, and for those who suggest that large, world-wide tournaments are a possibility, look at the limited success that Smeagollum is having trying to get something going in May (>8 participants)* and Hawkeye got zero interest at GenCon (nerd central...you would think a few people would want to show).

Either way, if you host your "Worlds" in the Washington DC Metropolitan area, I'll show (Movie Block only), but otherwise, find me on GCCG because I'm not going to travel to Zaire to play cards.
-wtk

Edit: * Smeagollum: That's not to say I want your event to fail. I actually want a lot of people to show up and then they can come to the site and play on GCCG and I have competition there!
-wtk