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Every once and a while I'll come across a card that boggles my mind. A card that I wonder if ANYONE has EVER legitimately used. Especially some rares. For example: Change of Plans. Has anyone ever used this card in a deck?
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 07:20:40 PM » |
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That card has a nice place in some of the loop decks. I think New Power Rising is a better example. -wtk
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 09:32:30 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 09:33:49 AM » |
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how about Supplies from the Mark ?
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 09:36:56 AM » |
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sorry, that's supplies of the mark. these cards do have uses...though I can't imaging them actually being put in the deck. hehe
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 11:55:19 AM » |
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Treachery Deeper Than You Know.... there are thousands of cards I'd play over this one...
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 12:00:50 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 10:37:43 PM » |
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That is the first card I thought of when I say the title. how about dwarven guard? Then again, he is a good meat shield.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 10:49:21 PM » |
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The Weight of a Legacy, its rare for goodness sakes!
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 08:05:26 AM » |
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Yeah, it's the rares that especially boggle my mind
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 01:38:18 AM » |
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That is the first card I thought of when I say the title. how about Bwarf guard? Then again, he is a good meat shield. are you serious? Dwarf guard makes Dwarfs at least a bit competitive in expanded. Gimli, BoGDain IronfootDurin IIIDwarf Guard x4 that's a nice starting setup, isn't it? and also, Dwarf Guard makes mono Dwarfs playable in FotR Block (even though they are not so good).
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2010, 04:45:22 AM » |
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Also, Dwarf Guard is the best choice if you wanna run SFTF/Dwarves. Sigewulf, Brave Volunteer, Stern People, Valleys of the Mark, Seeking New Foes are some of the cards that cross my mind. You can notice they are all  and I really tried to use them in a deck of some sort, but they are too expensive for their effect. Same goes for Reckless Pride, Ancient Blade and Unexpected Visitor. While their texts could even be used to some purpose, their twilight cost is too high.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2010, 05:24:16 PM » |
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I remember back in the day when I tons of commons/uncommons, but not much selection and very little rares. Decks were a bit more random back then, doing what I could with what I had. I could see some of these cards getting use in such cases. I mean, I used to actually play with Lorien Elf! That's before I spent $2-3k on FotR/TT boxes.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 02:47:03 AM » |
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Heh, first time I tried to use Galadriel, BoW, I used Lorien Elf as a starting companion because I didn't know that RB-s are free 
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 08:28:08 PM » |
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What a great lineup! Strength 3-5 and strength 4... slaughtered by a Morgul Gates play. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 09:54:43 PM » |
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I remember when I had tons of c's and u's without rares. Those were the days. back when I dreamed of owning anduril (or any rare for that matter.)
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2010, 08:56:54 AM » |
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Never underestimate the power of knowing exactly what your opponent is planning on doing. (Especially if gearing for a Radagast run). I'm thinking of a Smeagol/Gandalf clog deck with this card.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2010, 12:51:50 PM » |
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Heh, first time I tried to use Galadriel, BoW, I used Lorien Elf as a starting companion because I didn't know that RB-s are free  I wonder if the Elves will sing of mad lady Galadriel and the day she press-ganged a Lorien Elf into her little adventure.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2010, 08:47:52 PM » |
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Mostly useless, but it used to play a key role in my Easterling Bomb deck.
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2010, 10:22:37 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2010, 10:33:15 AM » |
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I used to use Hollowing of Isengard in my Regroup wounding Orcs deck. It took me a few games to realize how silly I was. "But just imagine getting a copy in your opening hand! Free twilight later in the game!" Yeah, I was silly. =)
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2010, 04:26:22 PM » |
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I've always wanted to build a Windows In a Stone Wall deck. Oh yeah. You can't control what kind of minions you face. -wtk
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2010, 02:36:01 AM » |
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2010, 04:31:19 AM » |
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I must admit that all Rares Lego mentioned are rarely used, but one is definitely not: Land Had Changed. This card is crazy in any Site Control Uruk Deck, and notice the wording: any Uruk-Hai. It can be used in Expanded for  Uruks, or in Standard/ Expanded for  and  Uruks, which makes this card very versatile. And a potential strength +5 damage +1 pump mostly means a dead companion. It's not as good, but can be like Savagery to match their numbers in Site Control Decks.
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2010, 06:31:37 AM » |
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in twilight is quite handy in wraith deck, too. I like these "wandering" pumps from Ages End very much.
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2010, 07:38:47 AM » |
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I must admit that all Rares Lego mentioned are rarely used, but one is definitely not: Land Had Changed. This card is crazy in any Site Control Uruk Deck, and notice the wording: any Uruk-Hai. It can be used in Expanded for  Uruks, or in Standard/ Expanded for  and  Uruks, which makes this card very versatile. And a potential strength +5 damage +1 pump mostly means a dead companion. It's not as good, but can be like Savagery to match their numbers in Site Control Decks. On a similar note, I have a friend who in an informal deck threw in some copies of Uruk-hai Healer in a berserker deck... he could exert the berserkers to add tokens to his machines, then heal them for their skirmish abilities. I know it doesn't really fit any particular block since the berserkers are movie... but still, it was pretty mean.
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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2010, 02:46:38 PM » |
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In original Fellowship block, Such a Little Thing was incredibly important. Horn of Boromir is very powerful. There were also lots of 3 and 4 bids, and 6 bids using Sam Son of Hamfast; getting 2 more burdens would trigger Enquea. A Ranger's Versatility Decks ran Boromir for Flaming Brand and Gondor Bowmen; Hobbit decks ran the pumping version; Gandalf decks ran him as a fighter. Most decks ran a version. And you could always play it for no effect if needed. I saw Moria decks that ran 3. As for other cards, I only played through set 13. I'll reinforce positive comments on Eowyn's Shield (for archery heavy metas) and Elven Rope. Any card that removes a Goblin Runner from the Ring-bearer is not a terrible card.
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2010, 10:06:04 PM » |
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sorry if my list offended you guys, ive never seen those cards played though
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2010, 01:29:55 AM » |
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No problem, I was also suprised by some of those comments...
I suspect that if a TCG doesn't release any new cards at all, players start to use even "worse" cards, just to try them, to make them playable and to have more fun.
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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2010, 03:49:25 AM » |
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sorry if my list offended you guys, ive never seen those cards played though
I don't think anyone was offended, so no need for apologies. We were just proving you wrong  I suspect that if a TCG doesn't release any new cards at all, players start to use even "worse" cards, just to try them, to make them playable and to have more fun.
I am one of those players, but there is limit even to that with some cards. And those are the cards which should be named here. 
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2010, 04:13:25 AM » |
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I declare Eowyn, Lady of the Mark and Miruvore for the category never-used-card. Although I will build a deck soon with these two. 
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2010, 09:52:28 AM » |
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well, like 30% of all Age's End cards are crap, 30% are Op and 40% are like ok. But Miruvore is not the only bad card in T&D; Enemy in Your Midst, Set Up... the liost is nearly endless.
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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2010, 12:30:02 PM » |
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Death they cried really reminds me of parallax arguers from stccg. It may not be the most competitive card, but it always makes for some funny diversion. The perfect meta card.
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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2010, 08:30:13 PM » |
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I LOVE DEATH THEY CRIED! Maybe I like it because of the event it represents. mechanically, it isn't super effective, but..... "DEATH!"
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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2010, 10:14:40 PM » |
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Gruesome Meal is truly terrible
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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2010, 10:42:13 PM » |
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Well it has it use, other than death they cried.
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2010, 06:33:00 AM » |
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Death They Cried DOES have a use - amusement! In fact, I pack four copies in all* of my Rohan decks...  Actually, I think someone mentioned Change of Plans in this list. I was thinking it could be a fun card to combo with a discard deck when you know your opponent is biding their time by not playing minions and building a great hand. Maybe Change of Plans + No Safe Places. *Technically this statement is true if you consider that I have no Rohan decks...
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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2010, 07:58:55 AM » |
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Death They Cried DOES have a use - amusement! In fact, I pack four copies in all* of my Rohan decks...  Actually, I think someone mentioned Change of Plans in this list. I was thinking it could be a fun card to combo with a discard deck when you know your opponent is biding their time by not playing minions and building a great hand. Maybe Change of Plans + No Safe Places. *Technically this statement is true if you consider that I have no Rohan decks... But can you pack cards in decks you don't have?  But the Change of Plans and No safe places have their place in the fruit loop if I remember correctly....
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« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2010, 04:22:17 PM » |
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I use this in a deck. Just make sure to play it during Regroup phase with Sixth Level, so you don't have to pay the cost of it before Shadow.
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