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August 18, 2008, 05:56:39 PM
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Gondor Tokens deck. (FP only)
« on: August 18, 2008, 05:56:39 PM »
Starting:
Boromir, Bearer of Council w/ The One Ring, Answer To All Riddles
Denethor, Lord of Minas Tirith
Faramir, Prince of Ithilien
Aragorn, Strider

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Deck:
Elendil, High-king of Gondor
x2 Blade of Gondor
x2 Faramir's Sword
x2 Gondorian Blade
x2 Ranger's Sword
x1 Faramir's Bow
x1 Aragorn's Bow
x2 Armor
x2 Shield of the White Tree
x3 kingsfoil
x4 Guarded City
x1 Houses of Healing
x3 Heirs of Gondor
x1 Noble Leaders
x1 Scroll of Isildur
x1 Throne of Minas Tirith
x1 Sapling of the white tree

Basically the strategy here(for those of you who haven't already found out) is to overload someone with possessions(probably Aragorn) play Heirs of Gondor and Noble leaders. Use Guarded city to max out tokens on those two. Then wipe out the enemy. Most of the swords I have will make my companions damage +1 and if not, using Heirs of Gondor, I would have enough streangth to overwhelm sauron. The point of having a four companion starting fellowship is so I can move on a bunch of times so I will be able to pull Elendil.
Also My three artifacts are so I can make Boromir 11 Resistance.

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« Last Edit: January 29, 2009, 03:53:45 PM by Elendil!Urukfear »
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August 18, 2008, 06:13:29 PM
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Re: gondor streangth deck. (FP only)
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 06:13:29 PM »
  Maybe change  the Great Shield for Shield of the White Tree. I think it´s best to use some artifact for Gorn like Anduril, Sword That Was Broken instead of the ranger sword.

Personally i think Armor is more useful than Armor of the Citadel because prevent damage from events like Red Wrath and cost 1 less twilight...

Maybe drop a Heirs of Gondor and add another Noble Leaders...

Well like all comments i do about gondor decks: Consider adding some Sapling of the White Tree!  :hey:

August 18, 2008, 06:26:42 PM
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Re: gondor streangth deck. (FP only)
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 06:26:42 PM »
  Maybe change  the Great Shield for Shield of the White Tree.

Wait just one minute! Did I just make a trade for shield of the white tree! I guess I didn't even know it but I had already made changes to the deck a friend suggested to me. Lol!

Well like all comments i do about gondor decks: Consider adding some Sapling of the White Tree!  :hey:

Yea I know I have 1 but how many would I need. After all this only saves someone once ya no.
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August 18, 2008, 06:35:16 PM
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 06:35:16 PM »

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Yea I know I have 1 but how many would I need. After all this only saves someone once ya no.
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Well but the good part is it save you just when you most need it! hehehe...

August 18, 2008, 06:36:16 PM
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 06:36:16 PM »
Yea, so true.
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August 19, 2008, 03:25:58 AM
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Re: gondor streangth deck. (FP only)
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 03:25:58 AM »
Boromir's Gauntlets with that Faramir is pretty fun. Defender +1 with skirmish cancelling! Very handy.

Take out 1x Heirs of Gondor and 1x Guarded City and add in 2x Noble Leaders. Its deadly.
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August 19, 2008, 03:49:15 AM
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Re: gondor streangth deck. (FP only)
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 03:49:15 AM »
In general, I don't think that it's worth playing shields or armour. Why not play skirmish pumps and win the skirmish instead? Or include extra companions in case these die (for example, Isildur and Elendil)? Cloaks, swords and bows, with athelas as a bonus, should be plenty of tokens for Guarded City. Consider running Derufin for ways of discarding possessions.

Heirs of Gondor is a unique condition, so having 4 will clog your hand. Cut these down to max 2. What about the Throne of Minas Tirith for token reinforcing?
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December 30, 2008, 09:07:49 PM
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Re: gondor streangth deck. (FP only)
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 09:07:49 PM »
In general, I don't think that it's worth playing shields or armour. Why not play skirmish pumps and win the skirmish instead? Or include extra companions in case these die (for example, Isildur and Elendil)? Cloaks, swords and bows, with athelas as a bonus, should be plenty of tokens for Guarded City. Consider running Derufin for ways of discarding possessions.

Heirs of Gondor is a unique condition, so having 4 will clog your hand. Cut these down to max 2. What about the Throne of Minas Tirith for token reinforcing?
Well first of all the point of the whole deck is to use heirs of gondor so I don't really need pumps. I will probably put Elendil into the deck because somehow, the last time I played with it the balrog beat me just cuz he's got damage +2 so yea elendil will make a nice add on.

second, derufin doesn't really help much because his text says nothing about discarding stuff to make your hand equal to five, I will have to do that in the regroup phase. Or if I can find a card that will help me to discard otherwise that would be nice. Third, I need at least 3 guarded city, because you will not believe how long it takes to pull it. by the time I usually pull it I already have all four guarded city in my hand.

Oh and by the way I luv throne of minas tirith! Sweet card, though I haven't considered trading for it quite yet
« Last Edit: December 30, 2008, 09:09:38 PM by Elendil!Urukfear »
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December 30, 2008, 09:17:03 PM
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 09:17:03 PM »
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December 30, 2008, 09:28:54 PM
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 09:28:54 PM »
Sure that's pretty good if the shadow player has a lot of pumps.
I'll look into it.

As for you mods, I need some critisizm over here, I mean Dain liked totally decked out on my rohan archery, and it wasn't even really good.
But if you are too scared to give me some Ideas over here I understand hint hint nudge nudge wink wink. :mrgreen:
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January 03, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2009, 09:05:17 PM »
Well, alrighty then.

Ideally, you should drop your Denethor for Lord of Minas Tirith. Probably change Faramir for Captain of Gondor. Great with his sword. Drop the other swords (and just keep one copy of Faramir's... Denethor can grap it) and put in 4x Ithilien Blade.

You need more Noble Leaders, too. At least 1 more.

Throne of Minas Tirith is great anti-Corsair stuff (because Marauders would eat your possessions alive) and gets Grond, too. Plus, it reinforces easy with Faramir's Sword and Noble Leaders.

Drop the archer bows (you're not doing wounding really, are you?) and just go with Bow of Minas Tirith for the strength.

Lose Armor of the Citadel for Armor of the White City. Again, strength. Then you can drop those shields for some Knight's Mount. Not too many copies, though - it'd be bad to draw them before your armors.

I'd consider adding in another companion. Four is kinda shaky versus swarms. I'd change to the Isildur Ring-bearer (with those Armors!) and use Boromir, Proud and Noble Man. Prancing Pony grab.  :P

So, summarizing my advice:

Starting:
Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms w/ The One Ring, Ring of Rings
Denethor, Lord of Minas Tirith
Faramir, Captain of Gondor
Aragorn, Strider

Deck:
x1 Boromir, Proud and Noble Man
x1 Faramir's Sword
x4 Ithilien Blade
x2 Bow of Minas Tirith
x4 Armor of the White City
x2 Knight's Mount
x2 Ranger's Cloak
x2 Athelas
x4 Guarded City
x1 Houses of Healing
x4 Heirs of Gondor
x2 Noble Leaders
x1 Throne of Minas Tirith
x1 Brego, Loyal Steed

I threw in the Brego because I realized I had taken out one card too many, there. Tweak as you need, but that's closer to how I'd run it. Maybe you should throw in Spirit of the White Tree - I like it a lot. Stops exert-to-wound minions, as well as other things. It isn't just limited to your opponent's skirmish events.
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January 04, 2009, 11:20:38 AM
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 11:20:38 AM »
Ty.
I will consider denethor, though I would like to keep the same faramir just so I can have 4 companions to start with (really helps out in the beginning), and I can always pull more. as for armor, I'll probably just use x2 armor, for the damage plus one guys. I don't need too many amazing possessions just like four on aragorn and that's enough to use guarded city for now...
For me, the bow of minas tirith never really works, because I hardly ever play cites and when I do, I don't have many battlegrounds to choose from. I like the regular bows cuz it makes them archer automatically.
I'm going to add Elendil and use x2 Kings legacy.
As for the mounts, I have brego, I just need a few more. I might only use brego though, just because I don't want to add too much twilight in case my enemies can swarm me with regular mininons, but I will put them into consideration.
thanks for the advice.
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January 05, 2009, 12:04:22 AM
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2009, 12:04:22 AM »
Way too many unique weapons. Drop them down to 1 each. Denethor, Lord of Minas Tirith rocks harder. Aragorn, Isildur's Heir is good. Not keen on Great Shield.

This should free up room for more cards to help the strategy. Like Throne of Minas Tirith.

EL's deck looks far more playable, though I would prefer Faramir, Captain of Ithilien and Aragorn, Isildur's Heir. I mean, you run Denethor anyways, so Aragorn comes out. And then you can cut the Athelas for, say Kingsfoil and you've got a Standard deck even.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2009, 02:46:05 PM »
Ok, first of all, somehow I didn't manage to change this deck when I meant to.
I am using x2 shield of the white tree instead of great shield. I am also using kingsfoil anyways, because I couldn't trade for athelas.

I like Aragorn, Isildur's Heir, but I'm still kind of attached to the idea of having a four companion starting fellowship.

And, I prefer to have x2 of every weapon so I can pull them before I start getting Guarded city.

I will change the deck as soon as I get some time on my hands, and will hopefully use some of your suggestions into making an improved one. thanks for the advice.

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January 29, 2009, 04:00:26 PM
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 04:00:26 PM »
Ok, I'm just now starting to see where this is going... sorry it always takes me a while.

first off, I'm using Denethor and the Throne of Minas Tirith in my deck.
But, i have a question, can you use Denethor's text more than once at a time?

other than that, You might be right about Isildur's heir, but I kind of still want that starting fellowship. Even though that's one more twilight each turn, I could always free up some room and use Let Folly Be Our Cloak to - the twilight.
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January 29, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 08:40:25 PM »
Yeah, you can use denethor more than once at the sanctuary.  Use him to get Aragorn and you'll have him by site three. 

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 01:51:03 PM »
other than that, You might be right about Isildur's heir, but I kind of still want that starting fellowship. Even though that's one more twilight each turn, I could always free up some room and use Let Folly Be Our Cloak to - the twilight.

Take that back... I'll consider using Isildur's heir.
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January 30, 2009, 02:25:27 PM
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2009, 02:25:27 PM »
This is just a thought, but you may not want to do this if you want to start with 4 companions.  If you start with Isildur as the RB you can use Denethor at site 3 to grab Aragorn and Boromir, Doomed Heir.  It will generate a lot of twilight and let your companions draw cards though.

It may be safer to just go get Isildur's Heir, and Noble Leaders if you don't pull it by that time.  Of course if things get hairy, you can always let Denethor die.

February 01, 2009, 11:46:46 AM
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2009, 11:46:46 AM »
I've got it!
Not very brilliant but it fits.
I start Boromir RB, Denethor, LoMT, Faramir, and Pippin, MT.
Once I get aragorn, Isildur's heir into hand using Den, he's only 2 twilight, and afterwards I can just kill Pippen.
Plus if it comes to a tricky site and there are 5 minions or so, Faramir's defender +1

I'll try this deck tonight @ halftime and see if it works.
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February 01, 2009, 03:57:24 PM
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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2009, 03:57:24 PM »
You wont be able to start those 4

Boromir RB then Faramir, as Denethor needs to spot 2 [Gondor] Men
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 10:12:05 AM »
you can use it 4 times, through the rule of 4.

houses of healing is very useful for this.
noble leaders should definitly be your highest priority.  that'll kill minions for throne of minas tirith.

also, why not add a tradesman of lebennin?
I actually run a token deck around boromir doomed heir (7 tokens with one guarded city! w00t!) but this is a kewl idea.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2009, 07:20:41 PM »
Dude, I tried this deck last night... Awesome!
I got about 20 or so tokens on Heirs and gorn had all of his possessions (cept his knife) but I was killin minions left and right.

as for TheJord,
Y can't I start them? Denethor says that you have to spot 2 gondor men, that doesn't mean that he has to be played after two gondor men.
And if you think about it... you can start faramir w/ boromir already and as soon as you play denethor after him that makes faramir 1 less twilight cost so he's still only 1.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2009, 04:12:23 AM »
You play your starting companions one at a time.

1)Boromir
2)Faramir - you cant play Denethor 2nd as he cant spot 2 [Gondor] Men
3)Denethor

And thats your 4.

Believe me I use to run a Noble Leaders/Gandalf deck with this starting FP.
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2009, 06:25:17 AM »
Hard Choice helps it you get Aragorn first, then you can heal Denethor to do his trick the 4 times...
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February 03, 2009, 03:08:53 PM
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2009, 03:08:53 PM »
no you can only do it once per site, because his text says fellowship and because there is no fellowship phase after reqroup.

But yea, I think I will still go w/ Lord of minas Tirith, just cause then i dont have to add 5 twilight for only 4 companions.
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February 04, 2009, 09:38:45 AM
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2009, 09:38:45 AM »
You can use Denethor during the fellowship phase while at a sanctuary. The bold word fellowship indicates that it is a special ability, which you can do as often as you meet the requirements. Hence you can do it 4 times, when you are able to heal Denethor, since you can take only 4 cards in hand during your fellowship.
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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2009, 03:55:56 PM »
woah, I guess I didn't really catch that.
sorry daisukeman. That's probably because when I played w/ this deck before, he was already exhausted before I got to the sanctuary.
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February 05, 2009, 02:39:04 AM
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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2009, 02:39:04 AM »
woah, I guess I didn't really catch that.
sorry daisukeman. That's probably because when I played w/ this deck before, he was already exhausted before I got to the sanctuary.

That doesnt matter. You heal him and then use his text, unless you are on no Stewards tomb.

February 05, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
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Re: Gondor Tokens deck. (FP only)
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2009, 03:31:28 PM »
A-huh  :-k
Time
What know we of this despondent thing
No sign no sound no tranquil ring
We try to tell its quantity
yet fail to see the point
Only one can know of it
to this eternal joint
We have not power in Use
To hold this creature bay
But only wait for it to change
Inside the soul of it we lay

February 10, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
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Re: Gondor Tokens deck. (FP only)
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2009, 02:38:18 PM »
Alright, I tried this and It Kind of works.
I ran this same deck only I took out all of faramir's and Denethor's possessions, along with Elendil.
My starting fellowship was
Boromir, Bearer of Counsil w/ the shadows ring
Aragorn, Well Traveled guide.

Along with what I already had, I added x1 aragorns bow, x1 Ranger's cloak, x1 Athelas, and x1 Houses of Healing.
Let me know what you think, and If you would rather, I will post this deck as a new topic instead.
Time
What know we of this despondent thing
No sign no sound no tranquil ring
We try to tell its quantity
yet fail to see the point
Only one can know of it
to this eternal joint
We have not power in Use
To hold this creature bay
But only wait for it to change
Inside the soul of it we lay