Special House Rules

[Doom]

I guess I can see where you're coming from. But part of dwarven culture IS the massive possessions. And IMO, that's just part of the game. No other culture has an equivalent to elven bow, and gondor's IB ranger deck is way more broken than dwarven axe.
To be honest, I still don't quite know how dwarven axe would be abused enough to put it on the x-list. Could you give an example?

[Gartax]

We put Dwarven axes because it gave us a way to enforce friendly rule.

Dwarven axe is not broken it is just NPE.  and since we want to play more friendly while having some sort of chalenge, we just decide to X it.

The card we choice to had, we judge taht is was either NPE or too powerfull.

Faithfull stone with some token adding threat is just NPE.  Imagine you have 3 faitfull stone on the table, the shadow play 3 minions and you have 3 tokens on each of them. So the shadow player will have to keep 6 pool in order to fight.

In a highly competitive environnent, That card would have been OK. But we wish to play as many strategie as possible and not many shadow have pratical discard condition. That gave us more option.

[Gartax]

I may have started this the wrong way.

According to your oppinion and your understanding of my goal, wich card should we (my playgroup and me) remove from our X-list and wich should we Banned.

Also none of you talked about the site path idea. What you guys think about it?

Thanks you all for your opinion, even thought I may not agree with you your opinions are appreciated.

[leokula]

I guess I can see where you're coming from. But part of dwarven culture IS the massive possessions. And IMO, that's just part of the game. No other culture has an equivalent to elven bow, and gondor's IB ranger deck is way more broken than dwarven axe.
To be honest, I still don't quite know how dwarven axe would be abused enough to put it on the x-list. Could you give an example?

You see... the thing with abusing, IMO, is when you use a card in a different way than the way it was design to be used. Follow the game's history with me for a bit.

Dwarven Axe is a free +2 possession with a powerful ability. It was designed when dwarves were mostly Gimli and he had a better unique axe for himself, so it was not widely used. It didn't really matter if it was free or not, you were not playing multiples. You'd be better playing Legolas, Aragorn, Boromir or Arwen, instead of the other dwarves.

In two towers, came Rohan: THE possession culture. Even bearing that status, it didn't have free possessions in the power level of dwarven axe.

Reflections came and along came Durin III and all those dwarven companions, allowing you to play a decent stand alone dwarven fellowship.

Right here is where dwarven axe became an abused card, because you could now play multiples of it, win skirmishes very easily and discard multiple cards from ur opponents deck. All of this wasn't allowed when it was first released.

See how the card changed completely due to its context? Dwarves weren't DESIGNED to be choke and strong LOL thing is they could now use all the dwarven cards that were useless, and they weren't powerful in the past with only one dwarf out... now they became powerful with a bunch of strong dwarves out... see?

[Doom]

So dwarven axe has become more powerful over time. But still not as powerful as IB.
That doesn't mean that DA is broken-otherwise pretty much half the cards in the game would have to be banned. Instead, players developed new strategies for dwarves, and now dwarven axe has an actual use. Great! That's how the game stays alive.

Gartax, I think you should just follow the game's x-list and agree with your friends not to play known broken combos. If you "we wish to play as many strategie as possible," you certainly aren't helping by banning so many cards.

[TheJord]

Looking through the list, there is a lot of cards I would not ban.

However, if this means you and your group will continue to play the game, great!