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September 07, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
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HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 07, 2018, 02:12:09 AM »
Planning on ordering the cards for this so any improvements or changes would be really appreciated!
FP (35)
Frodo, RA
The One Ring, IB
Eomer, TMoR
Eowyn, LoI
Aragorn, DoFP
x3
Boromir, DoMT
x2
Merry, Swordthain
Elite Rider
Sam, SoH
Leowyn
Rohirrim Javelin
x2
Eowyn's Sword, DB
Brego
Rider's Mount
Firefoot
Eomer's Spear
Blade of Gondor
Sting, BotEL
Ranger's Sword
Might of Numenor
x2
Defend it and Hope
x2
Gondor Bowmen
x4
Help In Doubt and Need
x2
Arrow Slits
Fortress Never Fallen
The Saga of Elendil
We Left None Alive
Shadow (35)
Desert Lord
x4
Elite Archer
x4
Southron Bowman
x4
Southron Marksmen
x2
Haradrim Marksman
x2
Suzerain of Harad
Southron Archer Legion
Raider Bow
x4
Ships of Great Draught
Red Wrath
x2
War Towers
x2
Discovered
x2
Seasoned Leader
x4
Rallying Call
x2
Hopefully fairly self-explanatory! The idea is to pick off minions with archery fire (although you don't need to kill necessarily) then have Eowyn and Eomer finish them off - Boromir provides a self-healing source of
HiDaN
boosts in case it's needed. If you want to risk 6 comps or only running one of the Gondor guys Merry can recycle the Javelins.
Cycles well as other than the handful of events you can play everything straight out of hand (
Leowyn
helps too).
Shadow loads up minions with
Seasoned Leader
, adds a few threats and grinds the fellowship down - the Marksman and Suzerain in particular can really put the hurt on the fellowship once you've exhausted a few people.
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September 07, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 07, 2018, 09:46:45 AM »
I feel like the Shadow could use some work. Your minions are mostly expensive and prone to direct wounding. You are also lacking crowd control and the ambush from
Raider Bow
is nice but everyone is already an archer. Why not just use
Mumakil of the Harad
and save on twilight anyways?
I actually like the
Desert Lord
-based strategy of just making him an insane bruiser and protecting him with
Line of Defense
and
Mumak
.
Let me know what you think of something like this:
4x
Desert Lord
3x
Elite Archer
3x
Mumak Chieftain
3x
Southron Bowman
2x Úlairë Enquëa, Lieutenant of Morgul
4x
Mumak
2x
Discovered
3x
War Towers
2x
Whirling Strike
1x
Bold Men and Grim
2x
Field of the Fallen
1x
Line of Defense
1x
Rallying Call
4x
Seasoned Leader
Cheers,
-wtk
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September 07, 2018, 10:39:18 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 07, 2018, 10:39:18 AM »
Thanks - think I'd like to keep it more wounding focused but you're right about the costly minions and lack of card control.
Totally didn't think about
Mumakil of the Harad
- makes much more sense than the
raider bow
, although I think dropping to
Whirling Strike
and focusing on pre-skirmish wounding is better.
Perhaps:
-1
Southron Archer Legion
-1
Suzerain of Harad
-2
Red Wrath
-4
Raider Bow
+2
Ulaire Enquea, LoM
+2
Whirling Strike
+2
High Vantage
+1
War Towers
+1
Bold Men and Grim
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September 07, 2018, 04:27:28 PM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 07, 2018, 04:27:28 PM »
One of my favorite combinations in the game is when you have a
Desert Lord
on a
Mumak
with
Seasoned Leader
and he is primed to kill a companion. Use
Seasoned Leader
to remove a threat and play
Bold Men and Grim
from the discard pile, then, when you get the kill you can discard another companion as well!
Anyways, to each his own, but I think you are going to run into a wall when you face wounding decks.
Eowyn, Lady of Ithilien
single-handedly dismantles this strategy, and
Shadowplay
/Unheeded are fairly common in Movie Block as well.
-wtk
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September 08, 2018, 12:33:43 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 08, 2018, 12:33:43 AM »
Mmm might be worth maxing out the
high vantage
then? That should protect from
Unheeded
and Eowyn shouldn't be an issue as I can exhaust before skirmish (unless I'm missing something?)
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September 08, 2018, 09:43:07 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 08, 2018, 09:43:07 AM »
I still find
Line of Defense
with four
Mumak
in the deck a better call than
High Vantage
.
Mumak
increase strength, make your minions fierce, and generate twilight. And if
Line of Defense
is discarded, you can recoup it with
Seasoned Leader
.
Mumak Chieftain
can replay your discarded
Mumak
(for no twilight) and protect your other minions. Definitely a better value than
Southron Archer Legion
, and, I would argue,
Elite Archer
.
-wtk
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September 09, 2018, 12:09:39 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 09, 2018, 12:09:39 AM »
So from testing you're definitely right, good call so thank you!
Currently looking like this:
4x
Desert Lord
4x
Southron Bowman
2x
Elite Archer
2x
Southron Marksmen
2x
Haradrim Marksman
2x
Mumak Chieftain
1x
Ulaire Enquea, LoM
3x
Mumak
1x
Ships of Great Draught
3x
War Towers
2x
Whirling Strike
1x
Red Wrath
1x
Discovered
4x
Seasoned Leader
2x
Line of Defense
1x
Rallying Call
1x
Bold Men and Grim
Bumped to 36 and added another
arrow slits
to the freeps to deal with those pesky corairs
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September 09, 2018, 08:54:41 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 09, 2018, 08:54:41 AM »
17 minions in 36 cards still feels low. I would drop one
War Towers
and add another
Mumak Chieftain
, and drop a
Line of Defense
for a
Southron Commander
for a little bonus crowd control.
-wtk
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September 10, 2018, 11:17:18 AM
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Re: HIDAN/Southron Archery
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September 10, 2018, 11:17:18 AM »
Can't get hold of any more
Mumak Chieftain
sadly, what would you suggest instead? Another Enquea or maybe
Southron Fighter
?
Any suggestions for the freeps?
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