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February 06, 2009, 12:48:39 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009, 12:48:39 PM »
The Movie Characters are:

Free people:

Frodo:
Sam:
Pippin:
Merry:
Bilbo:
Gimli:
Gandalf:
Aragorn:
Boromir:
Faramir:
Denethor:
Legolas:
Arwen:
Galadriel:
Elrond:
Theoden:
Eomer:
Eowyn:
Treebeard:
Smeagol:



The Enemy:

Sauron:
Saruman:
Lurtz:
Ugluk:
The Witch-King:
Grishnakh:
Gorbag:
Shagrat:
The Watcher in the Water:
The Cave Troll:
The Balrog:
Gothmog:
Ulaire Attea:
Ulaire Cantea:
Ulaire Enquea:
Ulaire Lemenya:
Ulaire Nelya:
Ulaire Nertea:
Ulaire Otsea:
Ulaire Toldea:
Gollum:
Shelob:
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February 06, 2009, 12:56:05 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2009, 12:56:05 PM »
Khhm... in LOTR TCG all characters except the ones with Weta bug on them are movie characters :)

February 06, 2009, 01:04:14 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 01:04:14 PM »
Ok the MAIN movie characters  #-o
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February 06, 2009, 02:14:43 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 02:14:43 PM »
Deathless-lord or Conquerer of Arthedain are easily the worst Wikkie's.

Sam, Faithful Companion or Steadfast Friend
Merry and Pippin that discard in skirmish - rubbish

For Aragorn I will have to nominate Captain of Gondor... and I know this will cause a stir. But lets face it, you would NEVER use him if it wasnt for the fact that he is the only Aragorn Knight. Now we have Armor of the White City to make Thorongil a base 12 with Isildur.
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February 06, 2009, 03:15:31 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2009, 03:15:31 PM »
Funny how times have changed... remember also rarities when comparing companions. My inputs:

Gandalf, the Grey Wizard: Great for Fellowship decks paired with TMAYOD and Gandalf's Wisdom.

Sam, Faithful Companion: Fellowship choke.

Aragorn, Heir of Elendil: COMMON, great $$$ solution for those who couldn't afford RotN ($15-20 on eBay back when I was playing). GloinTheDark is right on with Swordarm of the White Tower -- in fact, I remember an article by Decipher (maybe a TT preview) that highlighted this combo.

Eomer, Sister-son of Theoden and Theoden, Son of Thengel: [Rohan] allies were good in Towers, notice that Eomer can be started (unlike others) and Theoden gives EASY liberation (needed vs. Uruk, Dunland, and some Southron. Southron archery/site control was common in Towers block).

TheJord: Discarding Hobbits = Good stuff! :up:

February 06, 2009, 06:06:37 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2009, 06:06:37 PM »
Oh, First Watcher was the worst.  I heard about a game where the free people's player left him alive and kept moving and the shadow player couldn't play any other minions.  I think it was in a multi-player game, so no shadow player could throw minions.

Worst Balrog was the common one from Moria, but back in that set you could always pack one for site 5.

The Enduring Shelob from Seige of Gondor always loses to Eomer with Horse and Spear.

First Lurtz was kinda over-priced. 7 twilight i think.

February 06, 2009, 06:28:59 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2009, 06:28:59 PM »
Looks like Merry, Noble Warrior was a rather unpopular choice! The discarding versions do get their share of criticism, but they weren't all created equal:

Merry, Impatient Hobbit - straightforward regroup discard with a healing bonus for a [Gandalf] companion.
Merry, Learned Guide - only one that can discard while assigned to a skirmish.
Merry, Unquenchable Hobbit - most limited to me.

The counterpart to Unquenchable Hobbit would be Just a Nuisance, but removing an Uruk-hai from a skirmish might come in useful in Towers block.

Gandalf, the Grey Wizard: Great for Fellowship decks paired with TMAYOD and Gandalf's Wisdom.
One thing I've noticed about Fellowship TMaYOD decks is that many use the beastly Friend of the Shirefolk, and let other companions handle the Gandalf signets. For a skirmish deck the extra base strength comes in handy! But it's true that The Grey Wizard is the only Gandalf with a Gandalf signet in Fellowship block.

Rarity... maybe to a point. Companion of the Ring is the easiest Legolas to get in WotR block, but I still won't forgive him! ;)

February 06, 2009, 06:38:41 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2009, 06:38:41 PM »
One thing I've noticed about Fellowship TMaYOD decks is that many use the beastly Friend of the Shirefolk, and let other companions handle the Gandalf signets. For a skirmish deck the extra base strength comes in handy! But it's true that The Grey Wizard is the only Gandalf with a Gandalf signet in Fellowship block.

I use FotS in the TMaYOD/Pipeweed deck, but I'm not trying to choke. In another deck, I use Gandalf's Wisdom, and almost all possessions and companions are free. Add No Stranger to the Shadows => Lots of powerful companions and possessions out, not as much twilight as expected.

February 06, 2009, 07:29:33 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2009, 07:29:33 PM »
Amazing! Every copy of Bilbo ever made is useful!
There aren't many other characters like that.............. ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 09:46:32 AM by The Old Took »

February 08, 2009, 12:20:09 PM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2009, 12:20:09 PM »
I was about to say the same for Galadriel, but getting so many versions X'ed probably shouldn't be a point of praise. :lol:

Thoughts on the rest in Olorin's list:

Free Peoples:

Bilbo - N/A
Elrond, Keeper of Vilya
Galadriel - N/A
Smeagol, Hurried Guide
Treebeard, Oldest Living Thing

Shadow:

(Many of the N/A's here are due to being singletons in their respective cultures.)

Cave Troll of Moria - N/A
Gollum, Nasty Treacherous Creature
Gorbag - is either [Wraith] version (Covetous Captain, Lieutenant of Cirith Ungol) used much?
Gothmog - N/A
Grishnakh - N/A
Lurtz - haven't a clue
Saruman, Master of Foul Folk (too mean to [Isengard] Orcs?)
Sauron - N/A
Shagrat - N/A
Shelob, Last Child of Ungoliant
The Balrog, Terror of Flame and Shadow*
The Witch-King, Deathless Lord
Ugluk - N/A
Ulaire Attea, The Easterling**
Ulaire Cantea - N/A***
Ulaire Enquea, Faster Than Winds
Ulaire Lemenya, Wraith on Wings
Ulaire Nelya, Black-Mantled Wraith
Ulaire Nertea, Black-Mantled Wraith
Ulaire Otsea, Black-Mantled Wraith
Ulaire Toldea, Dark Shadow
Watcher in the Water, Keeper of Westgate

*Largely replaced by Demon of Might. Durin's Bane can still be splashed in Fellowship block decks for The Bridge of Khazad-dum.
**One of the few twilight Nazgul, but still awful. I'm not a fan of Dark Predator, either.
***Fourth of the Nine Riders may be the least powerful of his versions, but can still fit in Forestguls.

Lurtz, Servant of Isengard, besides being the only [Isengard] version, is quite the beatstick in Fellowship block Uruk decks. I think that takes him out of the running.
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February 08, 2009, 12:47:27 PM
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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2009, 12:47:27 PM »
any card that has 2 versions or less should be removed from consideration.
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February 08, 2009, 03:10:12 PM
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February 09, 2009, 10:07:11 AM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 10:07:11 AM »
Gorbag - is either [Wraith] version (Covetous Captain, Lieutenant of Cirith Ungol) used much?
I think Covetous Captain is awesome. If you're playing Morcs, that's basically a +3 pump for all your guys! Combine with Streaming to the Field and Stooping to the Kill and you've got very deadly Orcs. I use him in a Morgul archery deck as a little surprise for players who've put too many archery wounds on the RB... :twisted:

Lieutenant of Cirith Ungol I think, on the other hand, is pretty terrible. [5] when you have to spend at least [4] on a Nazgûl to get his full effect?

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February 09, 2009, 10:16:47 AM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2009, 10:16:47 AM »
The Balrog, Terror of Flame and Shadow*

*Largely replaced by Demon of Might. Durin's Bane can still be splashed in Fellowship block decks for The Bridge of Khazad-dum.

No way! Centurion has an insane deck that uses him to kick butt along with plenty of swords and whips.
Not to mention the Bridge of Khazad-dum and four Dark Places. Also, Fill with Fear skips the archery phase
and imho cheap Balrog is better than slightly more pumped Balrog.

February 09, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
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Re: Worst version of a movie character?
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2009, 10:30:18 AM »
Funny how times have changed... remember also rarities when comparing companions. My inputs:

Gandalf, the Grey Wizard: Great for Fellowship decks paired with TMAYOD and Gandalf's Wisdom.

Sam, Faithful Companion: Fellowship choke.

Aragorn, Heir of Elendil: COMMON, great $$$ solution for those who couldn't afford RotN ($15-20 on eBay back when I was playing). GloinTheDark is right on with Swordarm of the White Tower -- in fact, I remember an article by Decipher (maybe a TT preview) that highlighted this combo.

Eomer, Sister-son of Theoden and Theoden, Son of Thengel: [Rohan] allies were good in Towers, notice that Eomer can be started (unlike others) and Theoden gives EASY liberation (needed vs. Uruk, Dunland, and some Southron. Southron archery/site control was common in Towers block).

TheJord: Discarding Hobbits = Good stuff! :up:

Agree with all, except Sam, Faithful Companion. IMHO It will always be better to use Sam, Son of Hamfast.
Anyway to choke, you'll be needing 2 copies of Bill the Pony in your deck.
Still with Sam, SoH you can play them as they come into hand with no need to search them in the deck..
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