About the AUSTRIAN Format

[SomeRandomDude]

TSC is broken in more ways than one. TSC is a perpetual "cannot die" card for Hobbits that are probably already packing tons of burden removal.

[Kralik]

TSC is broken in more ways than one. TSC is a perpetual "cannot die" card for Hobbits that are probably already packing tons of burden removal.

In sets 1-10? OP, perhaps, but not really broken.

[FingolfinFinwe]

This format really looks like alot of fun.  I just don't really want to disassemble my 40some decks.
Though it would be very cool to just create a ton of "half-decks" (separate free peoples and shadow) to randomly intermix to give a wide variety of scenarios.

[Olorin]

Yes I suppose you are correct.  I would like to be able to play Namarie... more because I really like the name and picture more than anything .  But I do see the brokenness.

Nice to hear that

This format really looks like alot of fun.  I just don't really want to disassemble my 40some decks.
Though it would be very cool to just create a ton of "half-decks" (separate free peoples and shadow) to randomly intermix to give a wide variety of scenarios.

Yesss! That's great!

TSC is broken in more ways than one. TSC is a perpetual "cannot die" card for Hobbits that are probably already packing tons of burden removal.

In sets 1-10? OP, perhaps, but not really broken.

So, is TSC broken or OP now even in that format? I don't know really... if we come to the conclusion, that it is broken, we have to think about it. but I am not quite sure about it.

[MR. Lurtzy]

TSC is not broken.

[Elrohir]

Olorin, I hope you are not bored if I explain, why old shadows are still competive if facing Namarie - you can pay your attention meanwhile other things...

Old Shadows do have:
Saruman's Power
Goblin Scrabbler
...

If you discard the keycards, even the High King of the Noldor can not get any conditions back! I agree that Namarie is very strong, but other cards are powerfull too! And without Namarie, it is nearly impossible to get rid of nasty Deceit.

Fact is: Rules should be easy and simple, this was your idea of this format, that is, why you cut my set 4-13 idea. And I am fine with it.

But I hate erratas and X-Listing Cards! (Erratas are difficult to handle, by x-listing, you keep further cards away from game - Exactly the opposite of what we were to achieve.

[Kralik]

TSC is not broken.

As previously noted, you can heal your fellowship infinite times every turn in conjunction with SaE and Birthday Present. Removing all burdens is also possible with one other card (I'll let you figure it out )

If you discard the keycards, even the High King of the Noldor can not get any conditions back!

Don't forget the artifact that collects tokens... conditions can come back.

[Elrohir]

So we have come now to a moot point.

[Olorin]

TSC is not broken.

As previously noted, you can heal your fellowship infinite times every turn in conjunction with SaE and Birthday Present. Removing all burdens is also possible with one other card (I'll let you figure it out )

so we need to X-list TSC? ...but it is such a nice card...

If you discard the keycards, even the High King of the Noldor can not get any conditions back!

Don't forget the artifact that collects tokens... conditions can come back.

that's the next point - another elven protection. no real way to get rid of this artifacts.

[...] I agree that Namarie is very strong [...] --> NO! Namarie is not very strong, but BROKEN! broken, broken, broken - understand now?

[SomeRandomDude]

You can disagree, but please be respectful. Condescension is not welcome on the forums.

What I'm going to do is lock this thread, create a couple polls concerning the cards in question and allow the people to vote on it. Whatever is decided will be the format that we'll go off of on these forums.