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August 20, 2009, 05:25:02 AM
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All Help is prevented.
« on: August 20, 2009, 05:25:02 AM »
Imagine folowing situation:

Your fellowship is facing a Balrog, Demon of Might and about 10-15  [Moria] minions (Sneak, Runner, Backstabber, Crawler....).

You are at Cavern Entrance, on which a Saruman's Snows is played.

What can you do, to protect your fellowship?
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August 20, 2009, 06:23:46 AM
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 06:23:46 AM »
At that point things look... very bad. Maybe preventive measures can be taken though, like discarding the all-important [Moria] conditions, and using [Moria]/Orc hate like Curse Their Foul Feet! and Song of Durin.
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August 20, 2009, 07:33:17 AM
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 07:33:17 AM »
Yeah, you're probably just in big trouble in that case. That's pretty close to a worst-case scenario. If your fellowship is big enough, you might be able to survive, but you're likely going to lose a few companions in the process.
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August 20, 2009, 08:02:31 AM
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 08:02:31 AM »
Footman's Armor will protect your RB, but the rest of your fellowship will be in trouble  :-S,
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August 20, 2009, 10:17:36 AM
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 10:17:36 AM »
ask the Valar to help you.....
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August 20, 2009, 11:13:31 AM
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 11:13:31 AM »
You're doomed! Surrender with your white flag...  ;D

Probably near to impossible to survive this scenario. However here's what I would like to have for fellowship for facing it:

RB: Boromir, Bearer of Council + The One Ring, The Ring of Rings
Eowyn, Northwoman
Eomer, Northman + Firefoot (defender +1)
Theoden, The Renowned (spot Eowyn so he's defender +1)
Gimli, Lord of the Glittering Caves + Gimli's Battle Axe (can wound an Orc if he win his skirmish)
Legolas + Bow of the Galadhrim (can wound an Orc if he win his skirmish)
Aragorn, Heir to the Throne of Gondor  (defender +2 with his game text)
Faramir, Prince of Ithilien + any  [Gondor] possession (defender +1)
Garrison of Gondor (defender +1 if he spots a fortification)

In addition, one of the [Gondor] companion could have I Will Go and that's another defender +1 bonus if you have initiative. Of course some armor could be useful against the damage bonus of the backstabber. If there's at least 12 minions Gimli can even win the first skirmish against the Balrog if it's the only minion assign to him.

A very unlikely fellowship but I think it could survive this situation, but maybe not all companion will survive.
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August 20, 2009, 12:40:45 PM
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 12:40:45 PM »
Just Good, that Destroyers and Usurpers can not be played with Saruman's Snows in Austria.  :whistle:

If you have an Elrond, you could have luck, win, and discard the snows with Hadafang before other companions will die.
My Brother told me about Powerful Guide and brooding on tomorrow.

Very risky and very little chance...

Quote from: Enola on August 20, 2009, 08:02:31 AM
Footman's Armor will protect your RB, but the rest of your fellowship will be in trouble  :-S,
The best solution so far, I think  =D>

Quote from: Zoskan on August 20, 2009, 11:13:31 AM
You're doomed! Surrender with your white flag...  ;D

Probably near to impossible to survive this scenario. However here's what I would like to have for fellowship for facing it:

RB: Boromir, Bearer of Council + The One Ring, The Ring of Rings
Eowyn, Northwoman
Eomer, Northman + Firefoot (defender +1)
Theoden, The Renowned (spot Eowyn so he's defender +1)
Gimli, Lord of the Glittering Caves + Gimli's Battle Axe (can wound an Orc if he win his skirmish)
Legolas + Bow of the Galadhrim (can wound an Orc if he win his skirmish)
Aragorn, Heir to the Throne of Gondor  (defender +2 with his game text)
Faramir, Prince of Ithilien + any  [Gondor] possession (defender +1)
Garrison of Gondor (defender +1 if he spots a fortification)

In addition, one of the [Gondor] companion could have I Will Go and that's another defender +1 bonus if you have initiative. Of course some armor could be useful against the damage bonus of the backstabber. If there's at least 12 minions Gimli can even win the first skirmish against the Balrog if it's the only minion assign to him.

A very unlikely fellowship but I think it could survive this situation, but maybe not all companion will survive.


Defender would work!  =D>
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 12:49:30 PM by Elrohir »
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August 20, 2009, 01:07:31 PM
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Re: All Help is prevented.
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 01:07:31 PM »
and what about the help of he Valar? They did it before :mrgreen:
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August 20, 2009, 01:15:24 PM
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 01:15:24 PM »
Prevent such situation - discard  [Moria] conditions. Without Goblin Armories and Goblin Swarms they will never be able to play so many minions.
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August 20, 2009, 02:06:44 PM
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 02:06:44 PM »
Meh. Call in the Hosts of Valinor. Problem solved.

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August 20, 2009, 05:10:45 PM
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Re: All Help is prevented.
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 05:10:45 PM »
Quote from: Elrohir on August 20, 2009, 05:25:02 AM
Imagine folowing situation:

Your fellowship is facing a Balrog, Demon of Might and about 10-15  [Moria] minions (Sneak, Runner, Backstabber, Crawler....).

You are at Cavern Entrance, on which a Saruman's Snows is played.

What can you do, to protect your fellowship?

So in your hand at the start of Shadow, you had a Balrog, an [Isengard] minion, and Saruman's Snows. 5 cards left for [Moria]. Insane draws got you 10-15 minions? :P I'd like to hear HOW you'd get them (not saying it can't be done, but it would be interesting).
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August 21, 2009, 03:36:30 AM
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 03:36:30 AM »
Goblin Swarms of course. That's why that card can not be allowed to stay on table.
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August 21, 2009, 12:24:04 PM
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 12:24:04 PM »
Quote from: ket_the_jet on August 21, 2009, 03:52:10 AM
Quote from: Malachi on August 21, 2009, 03:36:30 AM
Goblin Swarms of course. That's why that card can not be allowed to stay on table.

Considering all of the other conditions in LotR, how do you think Goblin Swarms is the worst?
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he didn't say it was the worst, he said you can't let your opponent keep it on the table. discard it as soon as possible every time.
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August 21, 2009, 05:03:13 PM
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 05:03:13 PM »
Quote from: Malachi on August 21, 2009, 03:36:30 AM
Goblin Swarms of course. That's why that card can not be allowed to stay on table.

D'oh! XD Of course. :)
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2009, 06:47:26 PM »
Step 1:  Play Traveled Leader to switch the site to Caras Galadhon.

Step 2:  Assign only the weakest minions to your companions.

Step 3:  Console your opponent, who is crying at the other side of the table.

Also, given the Moria minions you mentioned, Mithrandir, Mithrandir could do the trick.  =P
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