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December 10, 2009, 02:19:44 PM
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Re: Cruel Discard with Elven Archery and Sauron Corruption
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2009, 02:19:44 PM »
Ahhh. Sorry. Yes, that hurts. It also hurt is you have exhausted your companions a turn earlier between TWAoL and skirmishes.

December 10, 2009, 03:10:29 PM
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2009, 03:10:29 PM »
Ahhh. Sorry. Yes, that hurts. It also hurt is you have exhausted your companions a turn earlier between TWAoL and skirmishes.

You don't have to use TWAoL if it is not safe. Elrond + Gorn provide 2 heals a turn, which (if you are doing well with skirmishes) is enough to discard 4 cards.

December 10, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2009, 04:19:20 PM »
Nevertheless, that is the point of the game, risk and sacrifice.  How much must the fellowship risk to ensure the destruction of the ring.
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December 19, 2009, 12:15:38 AM
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2009, 12:15:38 AM »
My first deck in fellowship league was mordor discard with dwarf discard - not very effective and I am sure this works better, but .....

What happens when a discard deck plays a discard deck?

December 19, 2009, 07:27:46 AM
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2009, 07:27:46 AM »
What happens when a discard deck plays a discard deck?

Utter chaos and hilarity. ;)

I would guess the stronger shadow wins. My current favorite discard deck uses Uruk-hai, not Sauron. They have a lot more stopping power.

December 22, 2009, 07:05:31 AM
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2009, 07:05:31 AM »
Nevertheless, that is the point of the game, risk and sacrifice.  How much must the fellowship risk to ensure the destruction of the ring of my opponent's mood, day, lust to ever play a game of lotr again....

I HATE DISCARDDECKS to play against, to play with: other cup of tea  :ninja:
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December 22, 2009, 07:09:32 AM
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2009, 07:09:32 AM »
:lol:

December 22, 2009, 07:47:15 AM
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2009, 07:47:15 AM »
I hate playing them too. That's why I run Frodo, CH or LM always. Makes decks 1/2 effective a lot.

December 22, 2009, 08:20:06 AM
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2009, 08:20:06 AM »
That's why I run Frodo, CH or LM...

Not in FotR block you don't! ;)
Note that neither can protect you from DDotR.

December 22, 2009, 08:31:42 AM
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Re: Cruel Discard with Elven Archery and Sauron Corruption
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2009, 08:31:42 AM »
It would be wise to pack a copy of Old Noakes in your deck, to spoil some of the fun at least.
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December 22, 2009, 08:31:50 AM
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2009, 08:31:50 AM »
What happens when a discard deck plays a discard deck?

Whoever abandons strategy and runs to site 9 first wins.
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December 22, 2009, 12:44:18 PM
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2009, 12:44:18 PM »
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Whoever abandons strategy and runs to site 9 first wins.


Maybe - what if your opponents play Mordor discard with Mordor trackers and Tol Brandir as site 9 - there is a high risk of being overwhelmed.

December 22, 2009, 12:51:33 PM
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2009, 12:51:33 PM »
It would be wise to pack a copy of Old Noakes in your deck, to spoil some of the fun at least.

He spoils [Sauron] but not [Isengard]... :twisted:

January 10, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2010, 05:52:12 PM »
I've played Red discard for a long time, and you're darn right in focusing in the Orc Warrior. He is the most cost-effective discard card for Sauron. But you need to FEED the Warrior, which means plenty of conditions that you are not afraid to destroy: 4 DDOTR, 4 His Cruelty, and I like 2 Spies of Mordor (cheap, easy to get out, expendable, helps your hand, discourages a double move).

I don't like Tower of Barad-Dur--too expensive to be consistent, and then not enough bang for your buck--so I would drop those. I would add 1 The Irresistible Shadow. I would replace Ambushers for Orc Assasins--these actually might stick around if they have hobbitses.

I love Desperate Measures but never have enough TL to pull it off 3x, so I would drop at least one for the standard Enquea LoM, who will own if they let burdens stack.

Shadows Reach? Discard /a/ condition? Discarding's what this deck does best, so I think that's unnecessary. That will trim your deck count.

For the Freeps, no comment, as I only ever play Dwarf/Elf discard with Durin's Secret. Gimli stacking a couple NTAD and a couple rounds of White Arrows is almost enough in and of itself.

Everyone's right in saying discard can be outsmarted (but when people start playing Old Noakes you can just play your Tower Assassins...). But a finely tuned discard deck, one that maximizes every ounce of twilight is much harder to beat, so stay with it!
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January 11, 2010, 05:54:47 AM
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Re: Cruel Discard with Elven Archery and Sauron Corruption
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2010, 05:54:47 AM »
Thanks for the feedback! The reason Tower of Barad-Dur is important (IMO) is to keep the opponent from slowly building up an ideal Shadow hand with which to destroy me. If they play only conditions and no minions, White Arrows and/or Nobody Tosses a Dwarf will never trigger. They can focus on cycling and even if they are decked in the end, if they manage < 5 burdens and have a site like Tol Brandir, I can be completely destroyed in the last double or triple move. Or even a bunch of Uruk-Hai and Saruman at twilight -1 apiece.

Desperate Measures usually works alright for me, but I agree that removing Shadow's Reach and putting in other conditions would be helpful.