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July 08, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2010, 04:51:06 PM »
So he's only revealing moria minions then?  That's still a bit of a giveaway.  Although there are several variations on this deck, so it's not like the opponent would be able to figure out exactly how his demise is being orchestrated.
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July 09, 2010, 10:31:22 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2010, 10:31:22 AM »
I've seen Heije pull this deck at site 4 or 5. Your opponent may not have enough time to realize what's going to hit them... and the twilight Nazgul keep things interesting. The key to LttG is, of course, the surprise, but it can be doable even if your opponent knows. My favorite LttG (not posted here) is designed to work regardless of foreknowledge.

July 09, 2010, 11:26:59 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2010, 11:26:59 AM »
Yours involves stacking on preparations, right?
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July 09, 2010, 07:42:53 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2010, 07:42:53 PM »
Yup yup. And tentacles.

July 09, 2010, 07:59:07 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2010, 07:59:07 PM »
Muaddib, if you see Ben, ask him to review my deck, because I know he has played LttG as well

Just noticed this..

Unfortunately I have lost his contact details and he doesn't appear on gccg or here anymore.. A shame too, his decks were always the best and most challenging to play against.

March 27, 2013, 09:52:17 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2013, 09:52:17 AM »
Hi everyone,

I'm reviving this old thread because I love the idea behind this deck but have some difficulties to understand how to make it work properly.

I built the deck myself IRL and last time I tried, I got crushed at site 2 because I gave too much twilight in the first fellowship phase, abusing Saved from the fire I guess.

Has anyone a replay link from Gemp showing this deck working?

Kralik has recently made some available for During Secret Society of Dear Friends and it illustrates greatly the strength and weaknesses of that deck.

March 29, 2013, 09:08:24 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2013, 09:08:24 AM »
My first attempts at that deck were complete failures!

Of course, I didn't know the card well enough and made huge mistakes (forgetting about the rule of 4, thinking MoW could make a minion skirmishing the ring bearer -3, etc.)

But even if I would not have made those mistakes, I was far from pulling the LttG bomb! Didn't even manage to start putting the [Moria] cards at the bottom of the deck... And the twilight you give is just so huge it's often suicidal to try to build the fellowship...

http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=neopium$pf991u1l4e29s2xz
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=neopium$jm4p1pk1r9y29aju
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=neopium$0z6ymg017fwaqlnf

Advice needed please :)

March 30, 2013, 04:58:58 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2013, 04:58:58 AM »
I've played this exact same deck 29 times now with Gemp but not recently. Won 11 times, lost 18 times.
First 8 games I've lost as well because I was still learning how to play it well.
Haven't played it recently but i'll see if I can play it properly and post a replay link. :) It's fun to play but not easy to pull off against every deck.

March 30, 2013, 05:23:04 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2013, 05:23:04 AM »
Thanks Mad Goblin!

It would be very helpful.

I guess I have to play it 5 more times before starting to win then ;)

April 05, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2013, 01:36:47 PM »
Didnt want to start another thread with a deck idea and sense it a LTTG deck figured I'd post it here to see if anyone has thought of this idea.

Bearer and Ring:
Frodo, Resolute Hobbit
The One Ring, The Binding Ring

Fellowship:

Gimli, Feared Axeman (start)
Linnar, Dwarven Lord (start)
Durin III, Dwarven Lord x3
Uri, Dwarven Lord x2
Farin, Dwarven Emissary x2
Dwarven Axe x4
Axe of Erebor x2
Dwarven Bracers x4
Hand Axe x4
Ring of Fury
Ring of Retribution
Ring of Accretion
Bounder
Sting, Bane of the Eight Legs
Dwarven Heart x2
Preparations x3
Ever My Heart Rises
Rest By Blind Night

Shadow:

Goblin Runner x4
Goblin Sneak x4
Goblin Backstabber x3
Goblin Scavengers x4
Gollum, Dark As Darkness
Goblin Swarms x2
Goblin Armory x4
They Are Coming
Goblin Scimitar x4
Web
Captured By the Ring x3
Lost to the Goblins x4

Idea is to hopefully get your minions stacked on swarms so you don't have to hold them in hand and Gollum and Web. Play it all from the possessions and conditions. Stack shadows cards on Preparations then shuffle it in to your deck. All you should need to hold in your hand are the 4x LTTG. Use the sneaks as well to put minions under your draw deck and replay them with They Are Coming so you need less stacked on Preparations.. Once you know how many shadow cards you have on the bottom plus the number you will be shuffling (of course the LTTG in hand) Use Ever My Heart Rises to empty your deck down to the set number then shuffle preparations into your draw deck and drop the bomb. Make sure you use Ever My Heart Rises before you shuffle the Preparations in or you will likely mix up free peoples carp and ruin the idea.

I'm doing this fairly tired so I may have made an error or missed placing a key card in the deck so bare with me lol.

NK

« Last Edit: April 06, 2013, 07:32:22 AM by NappyKorn »
If a Balrog falls from a bridge and noone is around, does it make a sound?

April 06, 2013, 07:25:55 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2013, 07:25:55 AM »
Hi and thanks for sharing.

In your deck list, Gollum is missing.

I like the idea, but I think it depends on many many conditions, that can be discarded easily (both on shadow side and free people, even though you have Gimli feared axeman).

Did you try it already? Does it work well in play test? Replay links are always appreciated :)

Thanks

April 06, 2013, 07:31:30 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2013, 07:31:30 AM »
No havent tested it yet, I havent had much time lately to play. I knew I missed something I have to check the list make sure the cards are even or if I added an extra something here and forgot to type gollum because on gemo the deck list is showing a gollum and the card count is even. When I get a chance to test it I'll post a replay link.

Yeah I have 34 shadow and 35 Fellowship cards apparently i just forgot to type gollum in the list.

NK
If a Balrog falls from a bridge and noone is around, does it make a sound?

April 06, 2013, 07:38:24 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2013, 07:38:24 AM »
No problem, it's already nice to share.

When you read this forum thread, Kralik seems to have also built a LttG deck based on Preparations. He however never shared his list. Maybe he can also give you some feedback.

April 06, 2013, 07:43:17 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2013, 07:43:17 AM »
Yeah Kralik is a good player and I likes to keep his secrets until he perfects the deck or plays it alot and basically everyone has lost to it, LOL.

NK
If a Balrog falls from a bridge and noone is around, does it make a sound?

June 07, 2013, 12:43:19 AM
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Re: Almost flawless LttG
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2013, 12:43:19 AM »
Another failure:
http://www.gempukku.com/gemp-lotr/game.html?replayId=neopium$6vs8wiqfx1apyzko

But I improve!

This time, I did not forget the rule of 4, did not give tons of twilight without being sure I could survive the next skirmish phase. The only mistake was at site 7 or 8, were I discarded Saved from the fire while I needed to burn Glorfindel.

It was way too late to start the deck filtering with Galadriel and into the west, but I could have had a better last draw (I was missing Gollum, Dad or CbtR and a third LttG)...