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CarpeGuitarrem
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:19 pm
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 3361 Location: Franciscan University of Steubenville
Yeah, if you had to abide by the way you’re interpreting things, lem0n, that would make the wargs unplayable because of that pesky "Bearer must be an Orc Orc with Strength X or less." requirement. Sorry.
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lem0nhead
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:33 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
It doesnt say it can be borne by another companion except a shire one Bib. It says transfer it to a fellowship companion. But also that the bearer must be a shire companion. It doesnt say transfer this to another fellowship companion that is or is not a Shire one. All the card’s text is active.

CG, no no im not saying discard it. It doesnt say discard this if bearer is not a shire companion. Im saying a non shire companion is not a viable target as then the bearer wouldnt be a shire companion, so im not saying if you transfer it u have to discard it as it doesnt say that but it does say it has to be a Shire companion so when you say im transferring this to legolas BEFORE it happens id say thats not an allowable target so prevent it.

By the way you’re all probably right but i still have to fight my corner as no one seems to see where im coming from.
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:25 pm
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
"Bearer must be" only applies when you’re playing the card in this case.

Now, it also usually applies during transfers. HOWEVER, the transfer text says that new characters can bear it in addition to the initial group. So non-Shire fellowship companions can bear it when you transfer it to them.

Most of the time when you transfer stuff, it can only be transferred to another eligible bearer (Strange-looking Men, using the fellowship phase transfer action, etc). But Rabbit Stew changes who the eligible bearer is when you transfer it.
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Celebrimbor
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:16 pm
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 953 Location: UNKNOWN
Artifact / Possession Transfer Rules:

Transfer

You may transfer an artifact or possession between your Free Peoples characters during your fellowship phase by paying the twilight cost for that artifact or possession again. (Minions cannot transfer artifacts or possessions.)Both characters involved in the transfer must be at the same site. (See ally.)

An artifact or possession may be transferred only to a character who may bear it. (See bearer.)Transferring a card is not playing that card, even though you must pay its twilight cost. “When you play” game text is not performed when transferring a card.

This rule obviously only applies to artifacts, and possessions. Not conditions.
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NBarden
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:32 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Whoa. So transferring conditions bypass all the typical possession transfer rules.

I’m going to play it like Bib said, because that’s obviously the intent of the card, whether that’s what it says or not.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:38 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
NBarden wrote:
I’m going to play it like Bib said, because that’s obviously the intent of the card, whether that’s what it says or not.

And these days, you have to go with the intent rather than what’s actually written more often than not. Rolling Eyes
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jefronio30
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:07 pm
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 3 Location:
you can only transfer that card to a companion that has a fellowship game text
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NBarden
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:25 pm
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 5468 Location: I don't know...
Yeah, we know that, but the card says bearer must be a Shire, so can it be transferred to a non-Shire fellowship companion?
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bibfortuna25
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:30 am
Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR
Yes it can. It must initially be played on a Shire companion, but you can later transfer it to a non-Shire fellowship companion.
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