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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:48 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Alright, then. I’ll leave it as is.

Sorry, lem0n. Thou hast been outvoted.

With that settled, I’ll hopefully have a couple more cards up tomorrow. Thumbs Up
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lem0nhead
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:19 am
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
RIGHT! Thats it. Fine. See if i give a hootnanny.

Youll all see. Youll AAAAALL see.

When the set is finished ill be guffawing at all you guys trying to (theoretically) face an OP deck using this card combined with all the ones Dain is going to create!

I shall have the last laugh. Mark my words.
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elf lvr
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:06 am
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
...

Question

Anyways, Dain, I’d definately suggest posting this section again for final review once the other cards are made.
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NBarden
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:32 am
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lem0nhead wrote:
RIGHT! Thats it. Fine. See if i give a hootnanny.

Youll all see. Youll AAAAALL see.

When the set is finished ill be guffawing at all you guys trying to (theoretically) face an OP deck using this card combined with all the ones Dain is going to create!

I shall have the last laugh. Mark my words.


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lem0nhead
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:10 pm
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2981 Location: Blood Island
Gees you guys need to learn how to take a joke. Relax.
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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:43 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Okay, with that all behind us, let’s get to some all-new cards! Smile

Since the big debate seemed to be Mad With Desire, let’s do some cards that deal directly with its abilities...namely, burdens and the Ring-bearer wearing the Ring. Here are a couple such cards. Enjoy!

2 Orc Prowler Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 7
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
While the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring, this minion is strength +1 for each burden you can spot.
Even simple-minded Orcs seem able to sense the Ring’s pull.

2 Orc Skulker Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
Skirmish: Exert this minion to make another Sauron or Wraith minion strength +2 (or +4 if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring).
The sheer number of the Dark Lord’s forces make them very dangerous.

3Oppression of The Ring Sauron
Condition • Support Area
To play, exert a Sauron minion.
Response: If a Sauron Orc kills a companion, add a burden (or 3 burdens if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring). Discard this condition.
“The Ring that hung upon its chain about his neck grew heavy, heavier than a great stone, and his head was dragged downwards.”

1Spies of the South Sauron
Condition • Support Area
Response: If the Ring-bearer puts on The One Ring, exert a Sauron minion to make the Free Peoples player discard a card from hand for each burden you can spot. Discard this condition.
“‘They will know all the news now, for they have visited Bill Ferny; and probably that Southerner was a spy as well.’”

These are both directly inspired by very old Sauron cards--The Ring’s Oppression and Southern Spies (I even borrowed their same lore, though I may change that)--from back when Decipher seemed to be going somewhere with a make-the-RB-put-on-the-Ring thing and then never ran with it. Now, with the other Sauron cards in this set, those long-forgotten events see new life in the form of new and improved conditions. Twisted Evil Spies of the South is a little less nasty than the original (which made you discard your entire hand), but then again, the original was an event, so I guess that made a LITTLE more sense...whereas this, as a condition, needed to be nerfed a bit. Balanced enough, do you think?
Last edited by DáinIronfoot on Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:40 am; edited 7 times in totalBest regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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Thranduil
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:55 pm
Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 2256 Location:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
3 Orc Prowler Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 7
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
While the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring, this minion is strength +1 for each burden you can spot.
Even simple-minded Orcs seem able to sense the Ring’s pull.

Nice. Really can’t complain (which is rare! Razz)

DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 Orc Skulker Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
Exert this minion to make another Sauron or Wraith minion strength +2 (or +4 if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring).
The sheer number of the Dark Lord’s forces make them very dangerous.

Any particular reason for the Wraith stuff, or just to go back to classic Sauron? Oh, and it needs a phase action, but seems otherwise fine.

DáinIronfoot wrote:
3 The Ring’s Oppression Sauron (reprint)
Event • Response
If a Sauron Orc kills a companion, add a burden (or 3 burdens if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring).
“The Ring that hung upon its chain about his neck grew heavy, heavier than a great stone, and his head was dragged downwards.”

Make it cost 1 as a response event - it’s just not worth the hand clog. I’d pay 3 if this was a unique condition though... Twisted Evil

DáinIronfoot wrote:
1Spies of the South Sauron
Condition • Support Area
Response: If the Ring-bearer puts on The One Ring, exert a Sauron minion to make the Free Peoples player discard a card from hand for every 2 burdens you can spot. Discard this condition.
“‘They will know all the news now, for they have visited Bill Ferny; and probably that Southerner was a spy as well.’”

Not good enough. Make it for each burden and it’s fine.

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DáinIronfoot
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:07 pm
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA
Thranduil wrote:
DáinIronfoot wrote:
2 Orc Skulker Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
Exert this minion to make another Sauron or Wraith minion strength +2 (or +4 if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring).
The sheer number of the Dark Lord’s forces make them very dangerous.

Any particular reason for the Wraith stuff, or just to go back to classic Sauron? Oh, and it needs a phase action, but seems otherwise fine.

Mostly just to go back to "classic" Sauron, though in actuality, the Sauron/Wraith connection isn’t as strong in older sets as I thought it was. In fact, Morgul Skulker (which inspired this guy’s name) from WAY back in the first set is the ONLY Sauron minion Big D ever made that directly references the Wraith culture. I, on the other hand, will have a couple more. Twisted Evil

I’ll fix the phase action error, though. d'oh! I also changed the event to a condition, as you hinted at, and tweaked Spies of the South as you recommended. Thumbs Up
Best regards, Dáin, Vice Aftokrator of the Chosen Ones

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sickofpalantirs
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:16 pm
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 7750 Location: somwhere, over the rainbow way up high. There's a land that I heard of once in a lullaby.
DáinIronfoot wrote:


3 Orc Prowler Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 7
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
While the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring, this minion is strength +1 for each burden you can spot.
Even simple-minded Orcs seem able to sense the Ring’s pull.
works

2 Orc Skulker Sauron
Minion • Orc
Strength: 6
Vitality: 2
Site: 6
Tracker.
Skirmish: Exert this minion to make another Sauron or Wraith minion strength +2 (or +4 if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring).
The sheer number of the Dark Lord’s forces make them very dangerous.
simple

3Oppression of The Ring Sauron
Condition
Resistance -1
To play, exert 2 Sauron minions. Bearer must be the Ring-bearer.
Response: If a Sauron Orc kills a companion, add a burden (or 3 burdens if the Ring-bearer wears The One Ring). Discard this condition.
“The Ring that hung upon its chain about his neck grew heavy, heavier than a great stone, and his head was dragged downwards.”
maybe to play exert a sauron tracker...

1Spies of the South Sauron
Condition • Support Area
Response: If the Ring-bearer puts on The One Ring, exert a Sauron minion to make the Free Peoples player discard a card from hand for each burden you can spot. Discard this condition.
“‘They will know all the news now, for they have visited Bill Ferny; and probably that Southerner was a spy as well.’”

ditto above.,..
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elf lvr
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:32 pm
Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 3065 Location: Rivendell
I think oppression should be a support area condition, to keep it getting out of hand.

In that case, you might drop the cost or make it two burdens...
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