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DáinIronfoot

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:55 pm

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation’s text reads:

Each time the fellowship moves, add 3 burdens unless you spot 2 other companions and discard 2 Gandalf

cards from hand.

Now, obviously having 2 other companions negates the hefty burden penalty, but what if I don’t have any Gandalf

cards in hand? I just ignore that drawback too, right?

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Lost Heir

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:15 pm

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 225 Location: Ohio

I think you would have to add 3 burdens since you can’t do the rest of the other choice, but I’m not totally sure.

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Elessar's Socks

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:03 pm

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 349 Location:

Dain’s question actually sparked a similar one of my own. If your Ring-bearer is 1 burden away from corruption, is adding 3 burdens considered an action you’re fully capable of performing? Because if you lose the game when your Ring-bearer’s resistance hits 0, then I suppose it follows that you were never able to add the full amount of burdens. (This is assuming burdens are added one at a time like wounds, although I could be mistaken about that.)

The reason I’m asking is in case Dain’s question falls under the rule that says if you’re given a choice of two actions, you must choose one that you’re fully capable of performing. I’ve always played with the assumption that the burden side could always be fully met, though.

bibfortuna25

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:32 pm

Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR

If you don’t have the 2 Gandalf

cards to discard, then you have to choose the burden option.

If you are 1 burden away from corruption, you are still capable of adding 2 or more burdens.

All cards do what they say.

DáinIronfoot

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:53 pm

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

The only thing is it says "and", not "or". So it’s not a choice between adding the burdens and discarding the cards, but both. If you’re able to spot 2 other companions and therefore avoid the burdens (seemingly), I wouldn’t think that not being able to discard would mean you had to add the burdens. Now if it said "add 3 burdens OR discard", then I see exactly what you mean. But I don’t think that applies here, does it?

bibfortuna25

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:09 pm

Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 615 Location: Springfield, OR

You have to spot the 2 companions and discard the 2 cards in order to prevent the burdens from being added.

All cards do what they say.

DáinIronfoot

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:19 pm

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 4594 Location: Beltsville, MD, USA

Ahhhhh...I see now. Huh...I’ve just always read it wrong.

Okay, thanks.

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macheteman

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:24 pm

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 1200 Location: The Jungle

yeah, i know, i read it wrong for a looong time. oh well, it’s a little confusing...

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