Decipher screwed the game up, we don't owe them anything.
While Decipher is all but dead and certainly does not care about the players that were once loyal to them you do need to keep them in mind. I strongly believe that if you do anything with the LOTR license that even suggest you are generating any kind of money - no matter how small - they will come down fast and hard. We do need to be a little careful.
I'm pretty sure that D didn't give any actual money to the SWCCGPC. They did give them product, but I doubt it was a million bucks worth.
But it would be great if the support for this was wider, and more experienced players involved.If this gets off the ground first, then the experienced players will find out and join in.
I got word from JW that he will at least check back TLHH in a few days.
I agree with Gil-Estel - lets move formward with multiple forums targetting components of this project. I will set them up later today if noone else has done it first or if opinion is mixed about my headings.
I propose the following forum headings:
Players Committee: Design Team (templates, v-cards)
Platers Committee: Rules Team (banned cards, errata, broken combinations)
Players Committee: Tournament Team (volunteering new tournament directors)
Players Committee: Web Team (do we have someone capable web design, running a website?)
Players Committee: Marketing Team (magazine, promoting the game)
Players Committee: Legal Team (permission from the powers that be, how do we do this?)
Players Committee: General Discussion (everything else)
Each forum should start with information about what we hope to achieve and can be updated by the OP to reflect where we are currently at.
It is important that everyone uses these forums - they are intended for everyone to comment - good and bad feedback will always be welcome.
Do you think these headings will encourage comments or scare people off?
Do I have too many headings or have I missed something?
Furthermore, the new sitepath allowed the game to progress with no care whatsoever. For instance, you could start the game at Helm's Deep, go to Mount Doom, and end the game at the Prancing Pony! That completely took away from the whole journey.You do realize that that is true about movie block as well right?
Many of the members on this site that were actively pursuing the PC for now appear to have moved on, or have stopped posting (hopefully they are still reading). I guess the main reason that this happened is a lack of leadership.
However, the core issue that prevents LOTR forming a PC is lack of leadership. Once the right person comes along, I hope things will start moving much faster. Will this ever happen ... I hope so, but time will only tell.
As for the email contacts - anything that informs them about the site and points them to the discussion about the PC might bring the right players in. I suggest sending an email to those player to let them know about TLHH, GCCG, and the proposed PC.
Me? Well I guess I could be the leader, but I have to say this. I have got neither the vast experience with the TCG that so many others on this board have, nor have I got the resume recommended for this job. The only thing I have would be enthusiasm and willingness to make this PC happen.I feel as though I am in exactly the same position. I could perhaps head a creative team or errata team, but I would not feel comfortable heading the whole thing.
While you all know my thoughts on the PC, I would certainly be your chairman if it was a paid position...
...and you paid me what I was worth.
-wtk
While you all know my thoughts on the PC, I would certainly be your chairman if it was a paid position...
...and you paid me what I was worth.
-wtk
so... nothing at all? \:D/
.... but i think a lot of people banding together for the cause of the game will really make it work.
Part of the oppositon i feel may not be to the idea of a PC but to the disorganised state we currently find ourselves in.
Part of the oppositon i feel may not be to the idea of a PC but to the disorganised state we currently find ourselves in.
No no no... It is the idea of the PC.
Wierd - promote game - get more players - support players (granted TLHH already does this, but with limited organisation - it is essentially house rules. It also support a community of at most 100 players worldwide and iwth the right organisation there is no reason that can't grow).I don't mind those things, in fact I think it's very important to promote the game and have people try it out. It's when printed DCs, rule changes, erratas, and bans start happening (which they will if a PC is started) that prevents me from supporting it.
You and select other members say no. I don't get it.
In the end - as other members of this site have already said - LOTR can die a slow and horrible death - but if that's what is wanted i really do question why members with this attitude are still here using these boards?
Anyway - it has been said over and over again. It is plainly obvious to some the benefits of a PC, but when on the other side of the fence (your side) it apparently is obvious we don't need this. I guess we will just have to disagree on that one.
And more to the point, there's no point arguing about it in this thread. Everyone is clear about each other's opinions, and no discussion here is going to change it - it just seems unhelpful to me.
In the end - as other members of this site have already said - LOTR can die a slow and horrible death - but if that's what is wanted i really do question why members with this attitude are still here using these boards?
Anyway - it has been said over and over again. It is plainly obvious to some the benefits of a PC, but when on the other side of the fence (your side) it apparently is obvious we don't need this. I guess we will just have to disagree on that one.
Agreed. :(
Also a place that can set up and hold a regional event and a Worlds type of event each year is what we really need.
I don't mind those things, in fact I think it's very important to promote the game and have people try it out. It's when printed DCs, rule changes, erratas, and bans start happening (which they will if a PC is started) that prevents me from supporting it.
Hey, here's an idea.
Why don't you introduce players to the game with whatever sets are most accessible in your area?
Problem solved.
-wtk
This, in theory, I am far more in support of. But I still don't think that a TLHH PC is necessary. It just works like this:Well, that makes three whenever I get my rear on GCCG.
Kralik: I think that all promos up to The Binding Ring (P) should be Movie Block legal.
ket_the_jet: I agree. Tell you what, feel free to use them in any of your Movie Block decks against me. I presume you grant me the same liberty?
Kralik: Sure.
ket_the_jet: I'm glad we accomplished that without a PC.
well that's the whole point. We keep talking, but not to the persons we should talk to: Decipher.
C1g.com offered to negotiate with decipher and I know TheJord did in the past. It seems we fail in organizing eachother. Kendrick is doing something with a website, but further we don't know what people are doing. Imo we should work like a normal projectteam operates: We should select one person to pull the cart and we should select one person to negotiate with Decipher (after determined what we want to negotiate). When the project has finnished then there should be a legitemate PC or there should not be one, whatever the outcome.
So my proposal is that people should candidate within 2 weeks for these 2 roles and then have a 2 weeks voting period to select the two persons who will fill in these 2 roles. Do people agree on this?
Before approaching Decipher it makes sense that a plan be presented to them. This will need to state the goals, visions of the PC and what we plan to do. Anything that is not in this charter or not accepted by Decipher will be off-limits for the PC. Essentially, this means when we approach Decipher, everything we want to do should be outlined. That doesn't mean everything has to be put in place immediately once approval is granted.
We should select one person to pull the cart and we should select one person to negotiate with Decipher (after determined what we want to negotiate).
There's little interest to begin with. A poll won't solve anything.
Lord of the Rings Online TCG
In 2003 Worlds Apart partnered with Decipher to produce an online version of the Lord of the Rings TCG[3]. The online game's rules matched the physical games rules, but utilized tradeable virtual cards that could be purchased through the system via starter decks, booster packs, or in draft. In addition to casual play, the online LOTR TCG system supported tournament play, league play, and sealed play including draft. The online system introduced a number of cards and formats that were online-only (for example, King-block draft packs), and offered players exclusive physical promotional cards and online avatars and movement tokens for participating in online events.
The LOTR Online TCG software[4] included collection management and robust deckbuilding features. For this reason alone many players have used the software to construct decks and print decklists.
In 2005 Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) bought Worlds Apart, but continued to support LOTR Online TCG.
On May 22, 2007 SOE-Decipher announced the closure of all support for the Online gaming system[5] . The LOTR Online TCG software is still available and the SOE servers are still running through June 2010, though no new cards can be purchased, and players with existing accounts still visit the system for the occasional casual game.
because GccG is better than LotR online, I've played both and GccG + Zobecs beats LotR online in almost every way
because GccG is better than LotR online, I've played both and GccG + Zobecs beats LotR online in almost every way
Forgive my ignorance, because this is new to me. You mean that you can play the LotR CCG online via this GccG website? If so, is it free, and what is Zobecs?
If I am understanding this, you just made my day!! :)
because GccG is better than LotR online, I've played both and GccG + Zobecs beats LotR online in almost every way
Forgive my ignorance, because this is new to me. You mean that you can play the LotR CCG online via this GccG website? If so, is it free, and what is Zobecs?
If I am understanding this, you just made my day!! :)
Lots on the formation of the PC
Lots on the formation of the PC
I'll start talking to Decipher after the first week of June. I'm a teacher and school is out for me then, I haven't gotten a summer job yet so while I have time I'll put something together, run it past people here and talk to them about it. I basically know what we need to do after helping some with SW with it and I can talk to Mark who is the current SW PC Marketing person who is working with Decipher on becoming a non-profit.
Lots on the formation of the PC
I'll start talking to Decipher after the first week of June. I'm a teacher and school is out for me then, I haven't gotten a summer job yet so while I have time I'll put something together, run it past people here and talk to them about it. I basically know what we need to do after helping some with SW with it and I can talk to Mark who is the current SW PC Marketing person who is working with Decipher on becoming a non-profit.
Lots on the formation of the PC
I'll start talking to Decipher after the first week of June. I'm a teacher and school is out for me then, I haven't gotten a summer job yet so while I have time I'll put something together, run it past people here and talk to them about it. I basically know what we need to do after helping some with SW with it and I can talk to Mark who is the current SW PC Marketing person who is working with Decipher on becoming a non-profit.
Yes, he is talking about the ragtag group on this forum.
I put up posters at my local game store to try and attract some interest in the game. Currently the people that play there only play miniature games (not even HeroClix, just stuff you paint yourself) and Magic.
Hopefully I can turn some of them to the dark side.
Oh, wrong metaphor.
Hopefully I can corrupt some of them...
Yes, he is talking about the ragtag group on this forum.
I put up posters at my local game store to try and attract some interest in the game. Currently the people that play there only play miniature games (not even HeroClix, just stuff you paint yourself) and Magic.
Hopefully I can turn some of them to the dark side.
Oh, wrong metaphor.
Hopefully I can corrupt some of them...
I can completely understand that. The last remaining card/comic shop in the Raleigh area has players that card-wise, only play MTG, Yugioh, and Pokemon. They have some D&D and Warhammer going on too, but I don't play any of those. It's hurts a little just thinking about it, lol :)
If you guys are willing the lead the PC, I would follow you and do whatever you require of me. I really really want to make this work.
I'm just adding this to the list:Come on you guys, let us get things going!I'm ready and willing to pursue this PC.I'm ready to follow you all the way in pursuit of the PC. :)LET US ALL MAKE THIS HAPPEN! COME ON!I'll be willing to give 102% and do my best though.Let's get things going! :D-wtk
A bunch of people with ideas and very little in terms of stepping up.
I understand. It's also not easy with no one stepping up.
How's that magazine? Website? It's been two years now since this has come up, right?
-wtk
Use the search function on the boards to look up the thought of a PC. June 2008.
Smeagollum, no, I don't. At this point, the only games I play are Rings and Vs. System.
-wtk
I got an email from Warren today talking about how this is something they are not ready to do at this time and will look at it again in 2011. They want to work with the SW and ST groups before getting an official LOTR group together.
He mentioned that a lot of people have asked about this and so they will look at it closer in 2011.
I'll send a followup email saying thank you for their time and so forth and that I will stay in contact with them about the group.
Now we need to discuss on where that leaves us.
I think that having the new site is fine and being a fan site dedicated to the LOTR game and helping to organize and sponsor events is where we need to stand. We can make rulings and so forth but we cannot do anything with V cards (I didn't want to go this route anyways at the moment) and we can't call ourselves a committee, just a fan site.
Thoughts. . . . .
the PC! :D
I like to think of the PC as a menstruating female. It has it's week every month but is otherwise in the kitchen doing my dishes.
-wtk
Anyways, I'm shocked. Can it be? A chompers and a Kenddrick sighting in the same day? Move over world, the PC has begun!Hahaha! :gp:
So with the hobbit in production and decipher keeping their hand in the pot what r the chances of a second edition version of Lotr based on the hobbit made by decipher?
So with the hobbit in production and decipher keeping their hand in the pot what r the chances of a second edition version of Lotr based on the hobbit made by decipher?
Dechipher keeping their hand in the pot? What do you mean chompers?
All that really matters is playing the game - THAT's the way to keep it alive.
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Just find another player, agree on some house rules, and PLAY.
I was too. All the guys at SW Worlds that played it said that it was done really poorly and that they found a lot of issues with the game that they kept pointing out the designers that were there. Maybe the delay in the game is that they are having to re-work things with it otherwise I would have expected it to be out by now.
They liked the artwork, but the gameplay was just poor and many flaws.
Hey Guys,
Stumbled onto this thread so I registered so I could chime in :) My way of keeping this game alive is collecting 4 copies of every card (sets 1-10 + promos cause I hate 11+) :D That way if I ever play with people I can ask what they like about lotr and make decks for them out of my own cards and play with them. This way me and my friends can make any decks we want (as long as they are sufficiently different) and enjoy this game forever. Anyone from Hamilton Ontario or even the GTA contact me, I'm long overdue for a game. Cheers!
Hey Guys,
Stumbled onto this thread so I registered so I could chime in :) My way of keeping this game alive is collecting 4 copies of every card (sets 1-10 + promos cause I hate 11+) :D That way if I ever play with people I can ask what they like about lotr and make decks for them out of my own cards and play with them. This way me and my friends can make any decks we want (as long as they are sufficiently different) and enjoy this game forever. Anyone from Hamilton Ontario or even the GTA contact me, I'm long overdue for a game. Cheers!
Sounds exactly like what I'm doing, too! :)
is it anyone still on this board from Québec city Canada who still wich to play? We are still 4 person who play almost every friday, so if anyone wish to join we will be more than happy.
We play a causual expended, mining we have ban a little more card and we play few cards from the hunters block as well as some house rulz.
Just contact me!
I don't ever really post, but do frequent these boards. I don't know if there is a topic for this yet (looked but didn't find one), but would it be beneficial to mark down the areas (perhaps loosely based for privacy's sake) where we live, in the event that we wanted to meet up person-to-person to play?