The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: Paviel on September 22, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
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Does anyone know where the folks at Decipher got the names that they gave to eight of the Nazgul in the TCG (Attea, Lemenya, etc.)? I didn't think that Tolkien ever gave the Nazgul names, and I'm 99% sure that Peter Jackson didn't either.
Were the names just made up for the card game?
Edit: I did a bit of "research" online, and came up with this:
I found that those aren't actually names, and are more like ranks. Ulaire Attea, for example, is Quenya for "Second Ringwraith." The others are "Third Ringwraith" through "Ninth Ringwraith," though I don't remember off hand which is which.
It almost makes me wonder what "First Ringwraith" would be in Quenya. I can understand why they called him the Witch King instead of some arcane Quenya name-that's-actually-a-rank, but I would be interested to know anyway.
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Ulaire Minea would be "First Nazgul" in Quenya.
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Regarding the Witch-King's name, from Tolkien Gateway:
"'Witch' most likely coming from his background in sorcery, and "king" after his establishment of the realm of Angmar in 1300."
There is a lot of literary material regarding the Witch-King, and stuff about him in the trilogy and in the Silmarillion.
Regarding the other Nazgul:
Khamûl is Ulaire Attea's actual name. He is the one who is initially in the shire looking for Frodo: "I come from yonder. Have you seen Baggins?"
He's an Easterling, and the second in command to the Witch King.
Other than "The Witch-King" none of the other Nazgul are actually named in the material that is actually from Tolkien.
I don't really care too much, but for those that are interested in going deeper, Iron Crown Enterprises made names and profiles for them, for the purposes of role-playing.
http://www.inmivoz.com/profiles-9-nazg%C3%BBl
While the names are made up, the profiles fit, as best they can, what we do know about the nine (example: we know three of them were of Numenor).
I think the most entertaining of these things is that Otsea is a girl hahaha. Sexy Nazgulette.
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Also, if you were to count in Elvish from One to Nine:
Er, Atta, Nelde, Kinta, Lempe, Enque, Otso, Tolto, Nerte
Look familiar? :)
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Well. I didn't know that before. That is pretty cool.
(And Witch-King sounds cooler than Minea. By far.)
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(https://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20130328135736%2Fmerp%2Fimages%2F9%2F93%2FAdunabeth2.jpg&hash=4026e3ceea499425edac8fc5270aa6e46d1f1485)
Lemenya...I'm not wearing any panties!
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So THAT'S why he's so eager to stick his Blade Tip in Frodo.
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You'll notice that in set 11 (http://lotrtcgwiki.com/wiki/set11) they put subtitles to all the Nazgul so you'd know which one was which number (second of the nine riders, etc)
If Otsea was a girl... so many jokes to make about the name typo. "Oh but you don't see any of the MALE Nazgul getting misspelled! More of that patriarchal oppression by Sauron!"
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Regarding the Witch-King's name, from Tolkien Gateway:
"'Witch' most likely coming from his background in sorcery, and "king" after his establishment of the realm of Angmar in 1300."
There is a lot of literary material regarding the Witch-King, and stuff about him in the trilogy and in the Silmarillion.
Regarding the other Nazgul:
Khamûl is Ulaire Attea's actual name. He is the one who is initially in the shire looking for Frodo: "I come from yonder. Have you seen Baggins?"
He's an Easterling, and the second in command to the Witch King.
Other than "The Witch-King" none of the other Nazgul are actually named in the material that is actually from Tolkien.
I don't really care too much, but for those that are interested in going deeper, Iron Crown Enterprises made names and profiles for them, for the purposes of role-playing.
http://www.inmivoz.com/profiles-9-nazg%C3%BBl
While the names are made up, the profiles fit, as best they can, what we do know about the nine (example: we know three of them were of Numenor).
I think the most entertaining of these things is that Otsea is a girl hahaha. Sexy Nazgulette.
This is correct. The witch king and khamul are the only ring wraiths with tolkein approved names. Gw also gave them names, or titles mostly.