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Middle-Earth => Lothlórien => Expanded => Topic started by: fenix on March 26, 2016, 06:47:55 PM

Title: Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation deck
Post by: fenix on March 26, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
Ring-bearer: Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation
Ring: The One Ring, The Ring of Rings

Adventure deck:
The Angle
Woody-End
Buckland Homestead
Hill of Sight
Caras Galadhon
Mithlond
Crossroads of the Fallen Kings
Old Forest Road
Trollshaw Forest

Free Peoples Draw Deck:
1x Jarnsmid, Barding Emissary
1x Aragorn, Defender of Rohan
1x Erkenbrand, Master of Westfold
1x Gamling, Defender of the Hornburg
1x Hama, Captain of the King's Guard
1x Théoden, Tall and Proud
1x Éomer, Northman
1x Éowyn, Northwoman
2x Barliman Butterbur, Prancing Pony Proprietor
3x Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas
1x Brego
1x Eomer's Spear
1x Erkenbrand's Horn
1x Erkenbrand's Shield
1x Firefoot
1x King's Mail
1x Rider's Bow
2x Rohirrim Shield
1x Narya
1x Throne of the Golden Hall
2x Citadel to Gate
3x Saved From the Fire
3x Speak "Friend" and Enter
2x Traveled Leader
1x Surrendered Weapons
1x Alatar, Final Envoy
1x Gwaihir, The Windlord
1x Meneldor, Misty Mountain Eagle
1x Pallando, Far-travelling One
1x Radagast, Tender of Beasts
1x Rohirrim Doorwarden

Shadow Draw Deck:
4x Black Rider
4x The Witch-king, Morgul King
1x Úlairë Cantëa, Black Assassin
3x Úlairë Cantëa, Faster Than Winds
2x Úlairë Enquëa, Lieutenant of Morgul
2x Úlairë Enquëa, Sixth of the Nine Riders
3x Úlairë Lemenya, Eternally Threatening
3x Úlairë Nelya, Third of the Nine Riders
3x Úlairë Nertëa, Dark Horseman
2x Úlairë Toldëa, Black Shadow
2x Ring of Terror
3x Dark Approach
4x Lost in the Woods
4x Moving This Way
1x They Feel the Precious
Title: Re: Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation deck
Post by: Shelobplayer on March 26, 2016, 08:43:51 PM
Anduril, FOTW > Speak Friend and Enter (the first copy you add for sure is better, sanctuaries are by far the most important to control, plus it's a #$&*@! of a weapon)
No Leowyn in a rohan deck is weird. Same for Symbelmine.
Any logical reason not to run the 4th SFTF? I think not... running extra copies of gandalf culture cards in a BOO deck is never problematic, you can just ditch them to his moving penalty.
Why Eomer's Spear over Rider's Spear? Not like Eomer is the only fighter, plus he's already dmg +1 and probably has a mount too. That's already 4 damage on a won skirmish with Rider's Spear, sure you want 5?
Keeping GOTM on the board might prove difficult without Haleth against way too many decks.
No ways to heal Gandalf might prove problematic, if you can't play Citadel to Gate because of it. Weland + Leowyn = easy heals for BOO.

I get that you want forests for you shadow, but I'm not sure if there is a point running subpar ones when you already have 4 is neccessary. Mount Doom sort of is. Old Forest Road is not. Realisticly, what does the 5th forest on the adventure path provides for you? When I play against forestguls Lost in the Woods don't tend to be very relevant... Stewards Tomb and Cavern Entrance are sites you almost always want in expanded too.

You run a lot of nazzy conditions, Otsea, Black Specter can make good use of them. Enables you to remove conditions if Buckland is blocked by Mount Doom.

Title: Re: Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation deck
Post by: Xanth on March 30, 2016, 06:27:09 PM
Forgive me if I am missing something (I'm newly returning to the game after having stopped around Reflections), but why wouldn't Speak Friend and Enter be better than Anduril?

You can use it to replay Mithlond, exert Barliman Butterbur to get it back, then heal Butterbur with Mithlond, rinse & repeat.
Title: Re: Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation deck
Post by: Shelobplayer on March 30, 2016, 11:08:44 PM
Forgive me if I am missing something (I'm newly returning to the game after having stopped around Reflections), but why wouldn't Speak Friend and Enter be better than Anduril?

You can use it to replay Mithlond, exert Barliman Butterbur to get it back, then heal Butterbur with Mithlond, rinse & repeat.

Basically what I said was 2 speak friend + 1 anduril > 3 speak friend. And there are multiple reasons.
Obvious one is if you draw it early it nets you (at least) 2 activations. The other one is that with Bearer of Obligation, you bid 0 and tend not to double until you establish your board in a position where you can deal with the extra burdens, meaning that in the first 2 regions, you are often behind on the adventure path. In situations like that, you can abuse FOTW's ability more than once (replace the site they played to say Stewards Tomb in regroup and to Mithlond in fellowship before you move there).

Of course there is also a the fact that it's +2 str +1 vit +1 dmg weapon which is an artifact (way higher chance to stay on the board than a spear).

If you are more interested in a BoO/Rohan strategy, you can read explanations and discussion about it here: http://lotrtcgwiki.com/forums/index.php/topic,8990.0.html (read that you are a returning player in Draino's thread)
Title: Re: Gandalf, Bearer of Obligation deck
Post by: Xanth on March 31, 2016, 05:24:31 AM
Thanks for the explanation! I'll give that link a read.