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Title: limit....
Post by: Gil-Estel on November 17, 2008, 02:46:06 AM
There are a few cards in Lotr tcg that have a inbuilt limit. Such as Mordor Warrior. But to what does this limit refer? The maximum bonus, so you can only make a companion -3, or the maximun bonus per card discarded, so maximum -3 per card even when you have like 6 other minions out?
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: TheJord on November 17, 2008, 03:19:59 AM
Limit refers to the inbuilt effect of the action. So for Mordor Warrior, its the reverse of Trust Me as you Once Did.

From the CRD
When a card has a limit, such as “(limit +3),” the limit applies to that card for an entire phase.

Specifically, Mordor Warrior can only make 1 companion -3 per skirmish phase. If you can only spot 1 minion, you can discard 3 cards to make that companion -3. If you can spot 2, the first card would be -2, then the second card would only be -1.

Hope this is clear enough.
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: FingolfinFinwe on November 17, 2008, 08:33:39 AM
The limit applies to that card only.  So if you have two Mordor Warrior's skirmishing one companion you can get up to -6.  Just as if you played two of Trust Me as you Once Did you would get a max of +6.  But yeah TJ is right, one Mordor Warrior cannot discard 6 cards to make a companion strength -18.   :(
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: FM on November 17, 2008, 09:07:43 AM
But he could make 6 companions -3, right?
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Kralik on November 17, 2008, 09:13:02 AM
But he could make 6 companions -3, right?

Unlikely, since you would have to have had 10 cards in hand during your Shadow phase (Mordor Warrior + 3 orcs + 6 cards to discard). ;)
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: FM on November 17, 2008, 09:28:43 AM
Double-move?
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Ulmo on November 17, 2008, 10:43:23 AM
Mordor Warrior only applies to the companion it is skirmishing, so only one companion gets to be down-sized.
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Kralik on November 18, 2008, 03:10:31 PM
Mordor Warrior only applies to the companion it is skirmishing, so only one companion gets to be down-sized.

 #-o Good call. :gp:
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: ket_the_jet on January 06, 2010, 10:07:45 PM
Just to confirm, each copy of Trust Me as You Once Did only works to a maximum of three per site or skirmish? My understanding is site, as posted by TheJord from the CRD and per my debate (and being proved wrong) by Kralik.
-wtk
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Alazzar on January 07, 2010, 08:00:34 AM
Anything that has a limit "per phase" has its limits applied to individual skirmish phases.  So, with one copy of Trust, you could give each of your companions strength +3 in their skirmishes (assuming you have the exertions and Gandalf signets to do so, of course).
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Kralik on January 07, 2010, 10:23:12 AM
Just to confirm, each copy of Trust Me as You Once Did only works to a maximum of three per site or skirmish? My understanding is site, as posted by TheJord from the CRD and per my debate (and being proved wrong) by Kralik.
-wtk

We were talking about the Sting limit, which is "once per site" (if you put it that way) since you can only have one Fellowship phase per site. It's really once per phase. You could actually use it at one site during your Regroup and then during Fellowship at the same site next turn.
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: ket_the_jet on January 07, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
We were talking about the Sting limit, which is "once per site" (if you put it that way) since you can only have one Fellowship phase per site. It's really once per phase. You could actually use it at one site during your Regroup and then during Fellowship at the same site next turn.

Just to further clear up, it is not actually once per phase, but limits the twilight removed per phase. You could look at the opponent's hand as many times as you wanted (or had exertions for) but the maximum twilight that could be removed that phase is [4].
-wtk
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Kralik on January 07, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
Yes, you are right ket. I meant "limit per phase" - poor choice of wording on my part. Thanks!
Title: Re: limit....
Post by: Smeagollum on January 10, 2010, 01:23:46 PM
Unlikely, since you would have to have had 10 cards in hand during your Shadow phase (Mordor Warrior + 3 orcs + 6 cards to discard). ;)

Which should be possible :)