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Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: TheJord on May 18, 2008, 03:07:25 PM

Title: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 18, 2008, 03:07:25 PM
Can someone explain to me why this guy got X-ed in Movie Block?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 18, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
Insane filtering from Gondorian Captain + Base of Mindolluin.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Gil-Estel on May 18, 2008, 11:02:39 PM
ah.....love that combo ;D
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 19, 2008, 05:10:42 AM
Beacon of Minas Tirith + Denethor, LoMT = Bwuhaahahahahhaa
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 19, 2008, 10:12:41 AM
wasn't it you basically end up with all shadow cards, thereby making it a lot easier to set up your shadow? so you would basically just try to survive and let your shadow smackdown the enemy if I am correct.

and theJord's combo isn't too evil IMSO...only works in king block for one, and only 4 cards max anyway...house of healing does it just as well IMSO
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Gil-Estel on May 19, 2008, 11:08:14 AM
Usualy I make Denethor work with that Aragorn signet card that heals twice: Hard Choice. Once I paired the Captain with Mordor Fiend, just to show my friend the brute power of both combinations. He is still a good friend....... :twisted:
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 19, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
Beacon of Minas Tirith + Denethor, LoMT + Gondorian Captain

Thats a bit nastier
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 19, 2008, 01:26:20 PM
you can still only take 4 cards into hand in the fellowship phase...
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 19, 2008, 02:42:49 PM
Stop ruining my fun
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on May 20, 2008, 09:24:13 PM
They should of just changed the cards a wee bit so captain didn't need to get x'd. I don't like it when cards are made that cannot be used to play.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Malachi on May 21, 2008, 01:32:40 AM
You can still play haim on Standart, Expanded and Open :P

What is perfect in LOTR format play - every card ever printed is still playable in some format or another.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 21, 2008, 02:03:54 AM
Though I still have doubts about cards like Lightfootedness. ;)

(I suppose if you packed 4 copies of every [Elven] event ever made... and then exerted Cirdan. Thrice. -195 FTW?)
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 21, 2008, 06:18:02 AM
how many elven events are there, you times that by 4, then times it by another 4(cirdan with narya) than you have an evil thing...that would take 16 sites to set up.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on May 21, 2008, 05:25:59 PM
Though I still have doubts about cards like Lightfootedness. ;)

(I suppose if you packed 4 copies of every [Elven] event ever made... and then exerted Cirdan. Thrice. -195 FTW?)
Where's the 195 come from?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 22, 2008, 02:48:26 AM
See Cirdan, The Shipwright
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 22, 2008, 03:31:23 AM
Well... if there are 65 unique [Elven] events (may have miscounted... although I'm not too eager to reveal I did fire up LOTRO out of sheer curiosity), then multiplied by 3 that's 195. I should've just said "arbitrary large number," huh?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 22, 2008, 05:18:02 AM
but you can have 4 of each card....thats 260x3=780 ;)
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 22, 2008, 05:30:00 AM
Excluding infinite loops (Broken in Defeat + Orc Skulker) the largest I have ever seen a minion get was 117 so getting a -780 will usually be pointless.

Lets make decks designed to create 1000 strength minions.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 22, 2008, 05:37:53 AM
*headdesk* Where did the 4 go? What an honor to be corrected by a Maia! :)

Since I was off already, what's the maximum vitality for Cirdan? 4 + Elven Armaments + Aiglos + Narya, Ring of Fire = 7?

So 65 (?) x 4 x (7 - 1) = 1560... wow, not bad.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 22, 2008, 05:46:04 AM
So now we need a bigger minion  :o
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: SomeRandomDude on May 22, 2008, 05:54:56 AM
Or 2 minions. :roll:
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: DáinIronfoot on May 22, 2008, 06:13:23 AM
*headdesk* Where did the 4 go? What an honor to be corrected by a Maia! :)

Since I was off already, what's the maximum vitality for Cirdan? 4 + Elven Armaments + Aiglos + Narya, Ring of Fire = 7?

So 65 (?) x 4 x (7 - 1) = 1560... wow, not bad.
You could also toss in an Ent Draught for fun. And don't forget the possibility of The Tale of Gil-galad in Expanded! :twisted:
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Mythdracon on May 22, 2008, 09:55:54 AM
Cirdan could still die to archery if you don't have Lightfootedness. Or if you have naught but Shadow in thy hand. :P
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 22, 2008, 10:06:20 AM
well for minions...broken in defeat, plus a ton of twilight and 6 companions....is there any infinite loop for the freeps that adds a ton of twilight?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 22, 2008, 12:12:13 PM
*headdesk* Where did the 4 go? What an honor to be corrected by a Maia! :)

Since I was off already, what's the maximum vitality for Cirdan? 4 + Elven Armaments + Aiglos + Narya, Ring of Fire = 7?

So 65 (?) x 4 x (7 - 1) = 1560... wow, not bad.
You could also toss in an Ent Draught for fun. And don't forget the possibility of The Tale of Gil-galad in Expanded! :twisted:
Ahaha, 2080... incidentally I never realized [Elven] vitality could be pumped so high.

Cirdan could still die to archery if you don't have Lightfootedness.
Best comment ever.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Kralik on May 22, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
*headdesk* Where did the 4 go? What an honor to be corrected by a Maia! :)

Since I was off already, what's the maximum vitality for Cirdan? 4 + Elven Armaments + Aiglos + Narya, Ring of Fire = 7?

So 65 (?) x 4 x (7 - 1) = 1560... wow, not bad.

No Aiglos -- cannot be combined with the Elven Armaments since they are both Hand Weapons. ;)
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: Elessar's Socks on May 22, 2008, 02:03:21 PM
1820 *twitch* And this is why I really, really should've gone with "arbitrary large number."

ANYONE ELSE? :evil:
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 22, 2008, 05:16:48 PM
arbitrary large number is not as fun as figuring it out myself...
is there any large loop that can add a lot of twilight for either side?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: SomeRandomDude on May 23, 2008, 04:58:06 AM
No, but there is Orc Skulker.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 23, 2008, 09:07:55 AM
all yes...broken in defeat, 6 companions orc skulker....how can you stop that at all?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: FingolfinFinwe on May 23, 2008, 09:12:48 AM
If the fellowship cancels Broken in Defeat with Gandalf, Wise Guide does it still come back to hand?
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: TheJord on May 23, 2008, 09:15:57 AM
Not have 6 companions? Connected by Fate or Dauntless Hunter? And Wise Guide would end it right away.
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 23, 2008, 11:04:26 AM
now I just need to make sure BtO never sees orc skulker....;)
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: FM on May 23, 2008, 11:42:46 AM
I COULD delete your post, would it help? ;)
Btw, I recall you guys having some friends/neighbours who played with you and were on CC. Did they ever make it here? Forgot their nicknames... :(
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: sickofpalantirs on May 23, 2008, 07:05:11 PM
yourstinken face, peterpot, gagnut, fingolfin, and legolamb. None of them really posted...gagnut and fingolfin know about it...but their internet has basically totally screwed up...PP and YSF and LEL really couldn't care less...
Title: Re: Gondorian Captain
Post by: SomeRandomDude on May 23, 2008, 07:18:31 PM
now I just need to make sure BtO never sees orc skulker....;)

Emailed him.

Oops, did you say not?
Not have 6 companions? Connected by Fate or Dauntless Hunter? And Wise Guide would end it right away.

If you had to tech against every deck, then your deck wouldn't do anything. Face it, some decks just smash certain other decks. :P

Everyone always posts what would kill a certain deck. And I'd like to see them take every single one of those ideas and stick 'em in a deck.