The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Lothlórien => Topic started by: Olorin on January 18, 2009, 10:10:12 AM
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Hello everybody,
has one of you got any idea how to set up such a fellowship?
:gp: for anyone with a good idea!
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Start with Leader of Men, and 2 hobbits. 4 times Saved from the Fire. Aragorn obviously with Prancing Pony. Saved from the Fire to get Gandalf, Powerful Guide, Sent Back and another random Gandalf companion. Next turn burn that companion to get Radagast, Treebeard and the next needed companion to even play Treebeard. The hobbits are canonfudder ofcourse. Next you combine it with a cycling shadow, though I know you don't like 'stupid' nazgul and only want to play 'smart' nazguls. That is how I would do it. Maybe add some extra gondor comps, they could be burned to get stuff you need for the gondor part of your deck.
Yeah Nazguls are the way to go, because Nelya, TotNR will switch sites back you need, like extra healing etc etc....
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@Gil-Estel: thanks for comment; have a :gp:
I might get a problem with the rule of 9; which hobbits should I use? bouncing hobbits? or ent-hobbits with momentous gathering?
of course I spent a lot of thoughts onto this topic - but I won't post my ideas because other people may think then the same way and don't stay thinking free...
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To counter the rule of 9 you can use those hobbits that can be taken back on hand, and than discard them.....But that is also clogging your hand. So maybe you could consider that condition that gives you muster whit followers...
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You could use the self-discarding Hobbits from Towers Block. Learned Guide and Woolly-footed Rascal can discard during their own skirmish, and Impatient Hobbit and Hastiest of All can discard during regroup for benefits that actually work in this particular fellowship.
Also consider starting Frodo and just ONE other Hobbit along with Leader of Men, then start Gondorian Prowler to later burn for [Gondor] cards (like Isildur and some possessions/artifacts).
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I would like to play this fellowship, because of several reasons:
each companion has got at least Strength 10
I can spot 3 [Gandalf] companions which allows me to play Flame of Anor; gives a minion strength -3 and it is a spell.
I can discard possessions, liberate sites, discard conditions with eg Pallando, remove burdens... and may be remove threats with hearts raised.
I have got an integrated move +1.
Aragorn and Isildur have got damage +1 - both wear artifacts as hand weapon - which cannot be discarded so easily. If Treebeard wins a skirmish, minions get exerted, play some spells... and there are fewer than six companions out there and only two free people's cultures... ;-)
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You could use the self-discarding Hobbits from Towers Block. Learned Guide and Woolly-footed Rascal can discard during their own skirmish, and Impatient Hobbit and Hastiest of All can discard during regroup for benefits that actually work in this particular fellowship.
Also consider starting Frodo and just ONE other Hobbit along with Leader of Men, then start Gondorian Prowler to later burn for [Gondor] cards (like Isildur and some possessions/artifacts).
Dear Dain,
Yes, that was my idea: start with frodo, Pippin Wobas, Gandy LoM and Gondorian Prowler... ;-) have a :gp:
PS: I would like to play Standard format...
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Isildur, BoH
* Pippin, itboh
* Merry, itboh
* Quickbeam, HoaE
Radagast, TB
Treebeared, enraged shepherd
Ghan-Buri-Ghan, Chieftain of the Woses
2x Gandalf, PG
2x Aragorn Thorongil
4 Momentous gathering
Glamdring
Shadowfax
2x Anduril, Stwb
2x Narsil, FbT
Hearts raised
Brooding on tomorrow
4x The Flame of Anor
Pallando
New Authority
Sent Back
Radagasts Staff
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@Elrohir: I doubt that this idea has a consistency; have a :gp: though...
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i would suggest the following starting: Frodo (15C) + Ring of Doom; Leader of Men; Pippin,WoBaS; Gondorian Prowler.
you may pick up Aragorn with Prancing Pony and burn the prowler to pick up your most important gondor stuff, e.g. Anduril, StwB.
if you follow this way, you don't have Isildur as ringbearer, but you got 2 hobbits and a gondor comp for burning in your starting fellowship. :up:
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@King89: have a :gp:
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Isildur, BoH
* Merry, itboh
* Pippin, itboh
* Ghan-Buri-Ghan, Chieftain of the Woses
2x Gandalf, PG
2x Aragorn, Thorongil
Radagast, TB
Treebeared, Enraged Shepherd
Narsil, fbt
Anduril, Stwb
Radagasts Herb Bag
Gandalfs Staff, AS
Glamdring
Radagasts Staff
Shadowfax
4x Momentous Gathering
Hearts raised
Brooding on tomorrow
4x The flame of Anor
New Authority
Sent Back
Pallando
Still one cardplace left, for your invidual wishes! (eg Erland)
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How about using both Momentous Gathering and Saved From the Fire? Pulling companions with MG will take some of the load off SFtF, allowing SFtF to concentrate on grabbing possessions. A core might look something like this:
Isildur, Bearer of Heirlooms
1 Merry, In the Bloom of Health (kill off when MG is done)
1 Pippin, Wearer of Black and Silver (return to hand and discard)
1 Gandalf, Leader of Men (burn)
1 Aragorn, Thorongil (pull with The Prancing Pony)
1 Erland, Dale Counselor (burn)
1 Gandalf, Powerful Guide
1 Ghan-Buri-Ghan (burn)
1 Radagast, The Brown
1 Treebeard, Enraged Shepherd
4 Saved From the Fire
1 Sent Back
4 Momentous Gathering
That's 18 cards. Artifacts/possessions and choice duplicates might be about 10 more, so that's 28 with some wiggle room.
Obviously what will be burned and grabbed will depend on what's in your hand. One possible path: Use the first SFtF to burn LoM and grab Powerful Guide, Sent Back, and Radagast. Use MG to grab the first sacrificial companion, then burn for the second sacrificial companion, Treebeard, and a [Gandalf] possession. Then burn that sacrificial companion for whatever [Gandalf] possessions are left to draw.
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thanks to Elessar's Socks... this idea is a bit different from the others... I will think about it... have your :gp:
What do you think - how big may this deck be to have a good draw? about 32 cards - more/less?
Which spells could be good for Gandy PG? Let me know what you think, thanks!
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I wouldn't go higher than 32 to start with. The fellowship is unstable in the early sites (not to mention gives off bucket-loads of twilight), and is dependent on SFtF. The Shadow should also preferably be able to cycle out FP cards, because if you actually draw into your [Gandalf] companions, Momentous Gathering (and possibly the last couple SFtF) could clog.
For the spells, I might consider using Terrible and Evil instead of Flame of Anor. Great synergy with Thorongil, and it gives you a kill method while you're jumping through hoops getting to Treebeard. Just pass Radagast's Herb Bag to Radagast (really amused Gandalf "stole" it :lol:) after GotM comes down, since it'd be redundant on Gandalf with TaE.
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Now I have got the best idea: I start with Frodo Ringbearer... and somekind of starting fellowship... then I hope until my opponent plays Ted Sandyman (it's a hobbit) and play Gandy PG in the regroup with sent back... but I am not confident that this would work...
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Now I have got the best idea: I start with Frodo Ringbearer... and somekind of starting fellowship... then I hope until my opponent plays Ted Sandyman (it's a hobbit) and play Gandy PG in the regroup with sent back... but I am not confident that this would work...
lol... take :gp: for it... :mrgreen:
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Start with:
Isildur Ringbearer; Pippin Wobas; Merry Itboh; Ghan-buri-ghan
I play 4 times momentous gathering, 2 times Gandalf Powerful Guide
I start at prancing pony, nab Ranger of Westernesse - play the next site.
I play - hopefully - Gandalf Powerful Guide, burn Ranger of Westernesse and play Narsil on Isildur, Aragorn and Anduril.
next turn I would burn Ghan to get Grimbeorn, Radagast and Treebeard.
so, I would have on site three - before healing - my complete fellowship set up.
Hopefully this doesn't sound to theoretical.
Next question: should I first set up the gondorian part with narsil, anduril and aragorn or should I first set up the gandy comps? probably first the comps... or?