The Last Homely House

Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: Smeagollum on March 18, 2009, 05:51:26 AM

Title: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Smeagollum on March 18, 2009, 05:51:26 AM
I thought there was a tournament planned in France? Is still the case? And if so: Where and when?
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Enola on March 19, 2009, 02:13:56 AM
Yep, as each year in France, there are 2 French Championships (planned on 2 days), the first in Movie Block (current June) and the second in Standard (current November), so the next one will be in Movie Block.

And there are some tournaments in Paris and Grenoble before these events...
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Smeagollum on March 19, 2009, 02:55:52 AM
Yep, as each year in France, there are 2 French Championships (planned on 2 days), the first in Movie Block (current June) and the second in Standard (current November), so the next one will be in Movie Block.

And there are some tournaments in Paris and Grenoble before these events...

THX :up:
Cool.. can you also inform me which day exactly?

And..... In Amsterdam we define Movieblock as follow: set 1 tm 10 - 9
How do you define it?
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Enola on March 19, 2009, 03:32:20 AM
Here there is the way we defined it last year http://frealaf.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=346 (http://frealaf.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=346) (sorry it's in French but you can understand it ;)).

So we define as 1-10 with the 9 + 0P56-60, and of course we have our own X-list ;).


But this year, you can use the site path from FOTR and TTT : there is so a new format called Pre-Shadow Multipath defined here http://frealaf.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=564 (http://frealaf.free.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=564).
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Smeagollum on March 19, 2009, 06:32:09 AM
Oh no an x-list :(

Don't like x-lists. Cards were meant to play with.. Why don't you errata or restrict them?
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Enola on March 19, 2009, 11:08:57 AM
The game is easier for the players when the card's text printed is the real one ;).

And we don't like R-list, because it makes the things more complicated.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Jerba on March 19, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
The game is easier for the players when the card's text printed is the real one ;).

And we don't like R-list, because it makes the things more complicated.

Can you post your X-List and Multipath rules here? I can't logon to the French forums nor read French. :) Thanks!
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on March 19, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
x-list
- Steadfast Champion 7U49
- Aggression 8C1
- Memories Of Darkness 10U2
- Galadriel, Lady Redeemed 10R11
- Mordor Fiend 10C91
- Final Account 11C31
- Strange-Looking Men 11R100
- Demoralized 11U114
- New Chapter13U154
- Madril, Defender of Osgiliath15R64
- Bill Ferny, Agent Of Saruman 15R72
- Mountain-Troll 15R112
- Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas17R24
- Orkish Lackey 17C80
- Prized Lagan18U110
- Doorway to Doom 18U134
- Mithlond18U136
- Steward's Tomb 18U139
- The One Ring, The Great Ring19P1
- Ulaire Nertea, Dark Horseman19P38


Just looked at your x-list, and quite frankly it's garbage.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Enola on March 19, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
I don't think I would post any X-list here,

X-lists cause some weird allergies on this forum :P.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Elrohir on March 19, 2009, 02:22:25 PM
Salut,
il y avait un x-list pour le <<movieblock>>, n'est pas? Lorsque il est pas le même truc, pourquoi il était changé? Ca veut dire, le x-list doit être accepter par tous le monde et le monde entier  ;)

Amicalement,
Elrohir
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Enola on March 19, 2009, 03:37:08 PM
We defined the Movie Block as the Standard Pre-Shadows ;).


As long as we have organized tournaments, we decided what format could be played and which cards are banned.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Gil-Estel on March 19, 2009, 11:44:32 PM
You're such a show of elrohir.....blugh....hahaha
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Smeagollum on March 20, 2009, 01:21:07 AM
x-list
- Steadfast Champion 7U49
- Aggression 8C1
- Memories Of Darkness 10U2
- Galadriel, Lady Redeemed 10R11
- Mordor Fiend 10C91
- Final Account 11C31
- Strange-Looking Men 11R100
- Demoralized 11U114
- New Chapter13U154
- Madril, Defender of Osgiliath15R64
- Bill Ferny, Agent Of Saruman 15R72
- Mountain-Troll 15R112
- Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas17R24
- Orkish Lackey 17C80
- Prized Lagan18U110
- Doorway to Doom 18U134
- Mithlond18U136
- Steward's Tomb 18U139
- The One Ring, The Great Ring19P1
- Ulaire Nertea, Dark Horseman19P38

If this is the x-list well then it's not too bad :)

Now just the date and getting holliday (depends on it actually) then I might come...
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: TheJord on March 20, 2009, 09:50:37 AM
Looking through the x-list, you allow Orkish Smith which will make my Troll Swarm awesome! I'll come.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Elrohir on March 20, 2009, 10:55:26 AM
Looking through the x-list, you allow Orkish Smith which will make my Troll Swarm awesome! I'll come.
I thougth we play movieblock, which means without Orkish Smith? I would like to play also standard this tournamnet  :uh-huh:
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: TheJord on March 20, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
For the Standard tournament, can you imagine, Forced March Troll Swarm with Orkish Smith \:D/ ouch
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on March 20, 2009, 04:21:31 PM
Please tell me why Bill Ferny was banned.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: TheJord on March 20, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
Because if his combo with Courageous Easterling and such... not the most deadly combo but it will kill the unprepared.

The real question is how can you allow Orkish Smith! Goblin Hordes, Forced March!
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on March 20, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
This list just looks like the French can't handle different strategies. I still don't see any good reasons for these to be banned:
- Demoralized 11U114
- New Chapter 13U154
- Bill Ferny, Agent Of Saruman 15R72
- Mountain-Troll 15R112
- Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas 17R24
- Orkish Lackey 17C80
- Doorway to Doom 18U134
- Mithlond 18U136
- Steward's Tomb 18U139
- The One Ring, The Great Ring 19P1
- Ulaire Nertea, Dark Horseman 19P38
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Elrohir on March 20, 2009, 05:04:41 PM
I am wellkinded, but "Demoralized" is a real evil card. If allowing this, it is like allowing Mordor Fiend...
I think I would like to disagree to release it from x-list. Please, keep it banned!
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: MR. Lurtzy on March 20, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
Simply making it unique would make it bearable... but that's beside the point. This is the French x-list and I doubt they will care about any other country's input.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: SomeRandomDude on March 21, 2009, 12:25:56 AM
This list just looks like the French can't handle different strategies. I still don't see any good reasons for these to be banned:
- Demoralized 11U114

Troll swarm- inifinite combo with rapid reload, keep it banned.

- New Chapter 13U154

Kills the Horn combo. Keep it banned until you can find a better solution.

- Bill Ferny, Agent Of Saruman 15R72

Kills the unprepared, yeah, so be prepared. I'd allow it.

- Mountain-Troll 15R112

You already killed Demoralized. No reason to kill this guy.

- Shadowfax, Greatest of the Mearas 17R24

So toss in a threat manipulator deck and corruption's screwed, I get that.

- Orkish Lackey 17C80

Well, with Smith out there, I'd kill this.

- Doorway to Doom 18U134

Can see why its banned, hoses certain strategies completely.

- Mithlond 18U136

Why?

- Steward's Tomb 18U139

Sanctuary problem, yes, but it hoses you too.

- The One Ring, The Great Ring 19P1

Can also see why its banned.

- Ulaire Nertea, Dark Horseman 19P38

Seriously. Not that powerful.

To answer your question, Lurtzy.
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Enola on March 22, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Most of your answers is here (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php?topic=1400.0) ;).


The definition of the Pre-Shadows Multipath as it's played in France at present is here (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php?topic=2049.0).
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: TheJord on March 22, 2009, 04:24:43 PM
Yeah Demoralised cannot be allowed. Rapid Reload and/or Mountain-troll with Lurkers is HORRIFIC with Demoralised.

And I have to agree with the ban on Lackey if you allow Orkish Smith, which I personally think is barmy! Having Unforgiving Depths back every turn, Goblin Hordes if it gets discarded  :-X
Title: Re: I thought there was a tournament planned in France?
Post by: Smeagollum on March 23, 2009, 01:14:31 AM
People please back to topic.. The tournament in June is in Movieblock-format. So the issue's you mention don't apply then!

Of topic: It would be better if everybody would use the same rulings... This get's confusing! And yes I'm still against banning stuff. It's better to restrict (which actually is also an errata) or to errata them! But this should be handled by the upcomming Players commitee!