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Middle-Earth => Lothlórien => Standard => Topic started by: smallman on March 27, 2009, 04:16:24 PM

Title: RB snuffler
Post by: smallman on March 27, 2009, 04:16:24 PM
Frodo And Ring 
*The One Ring, The Ring of Doom(15R1) 
*Gimli, Bearer of Grudges (RB)(9R+4) 
 
Sites 
(0)Buckland Homestead(11S230) 
(0)Isenwash(13U193) 
(1) Isengard Ruined(15U192) 
(1)Neekerbeekers' Bog(11S249) 
(1)Pelennor Flat(11S254) 
(2) Wesfold Village(15S194) 
(2)Barazinbar(11S229) 
(3) East Wall of Rohan(15S190) 
(3)Moria Guardroom(11S247) 

Fellowship (30) 
1x *Smeagol, Pitiable(19P11)  start
4x Gondorian Prowler(15U61)  start
3x *Legolas, Of The Woodland Realm(15R19) 
3x *Orophin, Silvan Elf(17S11) 
3x *Rumil, Silvan Elf(17S12) 
3x Back to the Light(18R6) 
3x Calculated Risk(7C4) 
4x Hearth and Hall(17U8) 
1x Life of the Eldar(8R11) 
1x Well-traveled(11R66) 
3x *Woodhall Elf(18C17) 
1x *Gimli's Battle Axe, Vicious Weapon(11R9) 
 
Shadow (30) 
1x Hidden Even From Her(8C22) 
1x It's Mine(7C62) 
1x Not Easily Avoided(18R32) 
1x Treacherous Little Toad(12U41) 
4x Captured by the Ring(7C53) 
4x Horribly Strong(11R43) 
4x Led Astray(11U45) 
4x Little Snuffler(13U52) 
1x So Polite(7R74) 
1x *Saruman, Servant of Sauron(17R38) 
4x *Gollum, Dark as Darkness(9R+28) 
4x *The Witch-king, Black Lord(12R183) 

Heres a fun only deck, that works very well vs all non response rings, for a win on site 2 or 3 focused on Little Snuffler.  Bid 1 go first, start East Wall of Rohan, double move unless it will literally end the game as you want them to play lots of freeps cards.  Freeps is purely for insane drawing to get all your snuffler cards.  I'd consider fitting Merry Loyal Companion in with 4 copies of the shire drawing follower.
 
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: GarrisonofGondor on March 27, 2009, 04:37:30 PM
Intrusting deck, I'd have to think about it :-k Does it work?
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: smallman on March 28, 2009, 12:59:51 AM
Works very well, it only has 1 major counter, Ring of Rings.  I would recommend trying to Snuffler their most key companion if they have this ring.  Luckily the Great Ring is quite popular now.  Basically all you need is Gollum Dark as Darkness, and usually 2 copies of Little Snuffler, if you suspect you might get choked then you will also need some Led Astray.
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: King89 on March 28, 2009, 01:47:43 AM
pretty nice deck. :up:

you should add some stuff to change wounds into burdens if your opponent uses ring of rings.
for example Morgul Brute, Dark Temptation, Throne of the Dark Lord, Lingering Shadow, Undead of Angmar...

maybe take a look at GE's shadow (http://lotrtcgdb.com/forums/index.php?topic=264.0) (scroll a bit down)
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Aragorn_Ellessar on March 28, 2009, 01:55:48 AM
Ok, first: Why Gimli, BoG? He is a total of Resistance 7. Not to mention, every time he fights you have to add 2 burdens or 2 threats.
second: You have no burden removal.
third:Nice shadow.
Fourth: Why Gimli's Battle Axe Vicious Weapon? Use either Gimli's Battle Axe or Gimli's Battle Axe, Trusted Weapon.
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: King89 on March 28, 2009, 02:07:01 AM
@ Aragorn_Ellessar :

because his fellowship is only for cyceling and card-drawing which is essential for the shadow ;)
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Aragorn_Ellessar on March 28, 2009, 02:15:35 AM
Oh. Well in that case, how many sites will it take on a bad day to kill your opponent?
Because even if his fellowship is only for cycling and card-drawing, he could be in trouble by site 2. I say you could still change your Gimli's Battle Axe, Vicious Weapon for Gimli's Battle Axe, Trusted Weapon.
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: smallman on March 28, 2009, 02:44:58 AM
On a bad day it will take until site 3 to finish opponent, but usually site 2.  Some of those cards are nice King89, but don't belong in this deck which must focus on site 2 win.  My freeps is very ordinary, but that doesn't matter as with 9 companions they always last until site 4, which is all that matters.  Gimli is actually only resistance 5, which should be enough for your shadow to still win vs corruption.  I have slightly improved the freeps for better cycling and can bid 2 to ensure goes first for best shadow setup:

Frodo And Ring 
*The One Ring, The Ring of Doom(15R1) 
*Frodo, Protected by Many(11S164) 
 
Sites 
(0)Buckland Homestead(11S230) 
(0)Isenwash(13U193) 
(1) Isengard Ruined(15U192) 
(1)Neekerbeekers' Bog(11S249) 
(1)Pelennor Flat(11S254) 
(2) Wesfold Village(15S194) 
(2)Barazinbar(11S229) 
(3) East Wall of Rohan(15S190) 
(3)Moria Guardroom(11S247) 
 
Fellowship (30) 
1x *Gimli, Eager Hunter(15C5)  start
1x *Smeagol, Pitiable(19P11)  start
1x Gondorian Prowler(15U61)  start
2x *Legolas, Of The Woodland Realm(15R19) 
1x *Merry, Loyal Companion(11C168) 
2x *Orophin, Silvan Elf(17S11) 
2x *Rumil, Silvan Elf(17S12) 
1x Elven Guardian(17S7) 
3x Back to the Light(18R6) 
3x Calculated Risk(7C4) 
4x Hearth and Hall(17U8) 
1x Well-traveled(11R66) 
4x *Robin Smallburrow, Shirriff #$&*@!-Robin(18U111) 
3x *Woodhall Elf(18C17) 
1x *Gimli's Battle Axe, Vicious Weapon(11R9) 

Shadow (30) 
1x Hidden Even From Her(8C22) 
1x It's Mine(7C62) 
1x Not Easily Avoided(18R32) 
1x Treacherous Little Toad(12U41) 
4x Captured by the Ring(7C53) 
4x Horribly Strong(11R43) 
4x Led Astray(11U45) 
4x Little Snuffler(13U52) 
1x So Polite(7R74) 
1x *Saruman, Servant of Sauron(17R38) 
4x *Gollum, Dark as Darkness(9R+28) 
4x *The Witch-king, Black Lord(12R183) 
 
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Aragorn_Ellessar on March 28, 2009, 03:01:18 AM
Now that freeps looks like it could work.
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Olorin on March 28, 2009, 03:04:06 AM
nice... :-)

@Aragorn_Ellessar: your new avatar makes me *wooooozyyy*
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Aragorn_Ellessar on March 28, 2009, 03:05:26 AM
Thank you :)
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Gil-Estel on March 28, 2009, 09:35:52 AM
For a little snuffler death I would recommend a Saved from the Fire twist. Sorry to bring it up, because it ofcourse well known to you, but by burning Smeagol you have access to those cards. You see the great ring, get 3 Little Snufflers and you're done
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: smallman on March 28, 2009, 03:32:56 PM
I used to use this but found it not as reliable because the opponent sees exactly what you have planned and won't give you enough twilight until region 2 which is too late.
Title: Re: RB snuffler
Post by: Gil-Estel on March 30, 2009, 06:23:33 AM
True, you give away certain info. But still, it depends on the ring of choice. If your opponent has a none response ring, you're set. A friend of mine kicked my behindparts this weekend with such a deck. He started with Smeagol, got there is another way, burned smeagol, put down the site which costs 4 in the regroup.
Most of us start a 3 comp. starting fellowship, so I would have made at least 7 pool. Then he got Led Astray..well, you can imagine what happened. It is the best way to powerlaunch Ninja Gollum, whether you grab Deceit, Promise Keeping, Fat one wants it, Not this Time, Little Snuffler....it all depends on what you've got in hand. Oh, and treacherous little toad is a good one as well.