The Last Homely House
Middle-Earth => Bag End => Topic started by: jdizzy001 on June 26, 2009, 04:30:12 PM
-
I can't figure out how the new Orc Culture functions. I look at the cards they offer and see nothing more than a bunch of scattered ideas. What can you do with these guys? Are they any good?
-
Wargs. Look at hunters block orcs and their wargs, and you will see pure evil.
-
Well, in fact prior to the ban of Orkish Smith namy considered Orcs bo the most powerful shadow culture. Try to combine some exert-to-wound Orcs (Orkish Veteran, Black Gate Sentry, Orc Miscreant is nice too) with new wargs (Vicious Warg, Threatening Warg, Relentless Warg). Add some more toys (Mordor Scimitar, Chaotic Clash) and you have an awesome wounding engine. Orkish Lackey and Orkish Invader work nice too, though they rely on conditions to wound. Also, with Troll's Keyward, KOTB and Orkish Scout you may pull enough twilight to get 4-5 Trolls per site (especially when combined with Wargs). There are lots of possibilities.
-
Demoralized + Lurkers- rocks expanded.
-
I'm beginning to see, but if you play all lurkers, don't they lose their effectivness?
-
Play Cave Troll, his hammer, and with Mountain Troll, you can play as many minions as you want from your discard pile. So you swarm the whole fellowship. Lurker does not count for winning anymore. ;)
-
Wait, what do you mean doesn't count for winning? I thought lurker meant they were skirmished last?
-
I think he meant it no longer matters, you will win anyway. And yes, lurker means skirmish last.
-
Bound To Its Fate and Isengard Underling can be used nicely together, with Mocking Goblin and Retribution maybe a porter troll and some goblin scimitar or orc spear make for a fun corruption deck.
abiding evil works well in this deck also.
Orkish worker is good fun too. 4x of him can get some huge twilite generation.
-
You know, I built a corruption deck the other day. It failed miserably, but I didn't put in retributuion. In fact I didn't even think to use it. What a great idea!
-
also add 3x Ulaire enquea, ToTO and a couple of Gothmog, Morgul Leader, with enquea taking Gothmog's archery wounds, he can be fun to add a few burdens.
-
That is brilliant! I shoulda thought of it :P
-
Gothmog is especially good in this deck because you can actually use his text to bring isengard underling back in regroup to get more bound to its fate... more burdens. :)
-
Heck, if your using Gothmog to play a minion during the regroup phase play Orc Miscreant! Of course you'll need 5 twilight, but that is nothing the orc hammer, mordor scimitar, and demoralized can't handle.
-
I also like my personal fave, the underground swarm, you can use orcs that get big at underground sites with Goblin Horde and turn out up to 10-12 minion swarms.
-
Heck, if your using Gothmog to play a minion during the regroup phase play Orc Miscreant! Of course you'll need 5 twilight, but that is nothing the orc hammer, mordor scimitar, and demoralized can't handle.
demoralized is banned in standard...
miscreant doesn't make my corruption, he usually get hammered in any skirmish phase (no wargs either), I also don't like the to play spot a minion...but maybe with gothmogs 1x miscreant might be worth putting in if room.
orc hammer is no good in corruption deck, you want to win your fights to add burdens with retribution or if choked use underlings and bound to its fate coz they are cheap and can add burdens during shadow phase, 2 twilite for 1 strength is too expensive imo.
mocking goblin with mordor scimitar or orc spear and retribution is your best bet, supported with bound to its fate and isengard underling with abiding evil.
-
What convinces the other player not to discard an event? That was the problem I can't seem to get over. The crew I play with always discards cards instead of adding the burden
-
yeah, but when they don't have any events left in hand...
-
Hasn't happened in our games. We use a lot of events.
-
evidently.
-
but macheteman is right, its worth to try, happens easily, that all events are played though. The effect is great, for just one twilight, I think
-
The event is usually a pump too, which means better chance of winning and adding burdens with retribution.
-
but macheteman is right, its worth to try, happens easily, that all events are played though. The effect is great, for just one twilight, I think
i agree. Well thought out and executed with style
-
11U110 Bound to its Fate x4
12R81 Abiding Evil x1
11C125 Isengard Underling x4
11C127 Mocking Goblin x4
11R135 Porter Troll x1
11R133 Orkish Worker x4
18R80 •Gothmog, Morgul Leader x3
10R68 •Ulaire Enquea, Thrall of the One x3
12R101 •Retribution x3
12C96 Orc Spear x3
It is a fun deck to play with, only 30 cards... It is probably best paired with some sort of choke eg. smeagol solo or dwarves.
Does anyone know if Gothmog, Morgul Leader has had any errata?
If he has been errated (like my version of sda thinks) it says that minions played in the regroup phase (using his text) come into play exhausted..?
If this is true than orc miscreant is useless and would not be in the deck.
deck changed...miscrerant cut due to errata.
-
i n my [Orc] corruption deck I put in forced march to make them move again since they're out of events
-
yap, one copy is no mistake, just one slot, but if you draw it....ouchh. can get very ugly with it, combined with an still living gothmog who recrutes the good ol' orcses.... heavy
-
That is a pretty cool looking deck. I like the forced march too. I can't believe you can do so much with these orcs. I am impressed
-
i n my [Orc] corruption deck I put in forced march to make them move again since they're out of events
great idea! :gp:
-
gothmog has an erratum. orcs played by him in the regroup phase come into play exhausted. this has been ruled for orc miscreant and orkish veteran.
i played the orcs with weapons in amsterdam. use retribution for some burdens and orc artisan, orc spear, scavenging goblins, mordor aggressor etc. my opponents didn´t have quite the fun i had :mrgreen:
-
Seconded, the Gothmog part that is.
-
Seconded, the Gothmog part that is.
Thirded... well, OK. Just click the link to see the database entry and it shows the erratum and the notes. :P
-
gothmog has an erratum. orcs played by him in the regroup phase come into play exhausted. this has been ruled for orc miscreant and orkish veteran.
i played the orcs with weapons in amsterdam. use retribution for some burdens and orc artisan, orc spear, scavenging goblins, mordor aggressor etc. my opponents didn´t have quite the fun i had :mrgreen:
again, with the erratums! Why make a card if they're just going to change it. Playing an orc for 5 twilight in the regroup phase to add burdens is no different, to me, than playing mordor fiend so you can add nearly unlimited twilight during the shadow phase and overwhelm your opponent with trolls. I'll never understand erratas... :'( . I really like the artisan/spear combo. Devius. how does mordor aggressor fair with bladed gauntlets? Anyone ever try that?
-
Well how about 1 person is in charge of making cards, he designes a card that is good, but doesn't think of everything, and surprisingly there is a card that works miracles with the one just designed and printed....
-
Well how about 1 person is in charge of making cards, he designes a card that is good, but doesn't think of everything, and surprisingly there is a card that works miracles with the one just designed and printed....
I think that is just part of the game. I'll admit, there are reasons for erratas from time to time, but there are too many in LOTR. The designers should test the product a bit more before they release it, generally speaking. After all, they have access to every card available.
-
Like I said, if them is just 1 person it will be hard. Testing became the problem indeed.
-
was there only one play tester?
-
During the time of release of the last three sets (Age's End included) the number of Decipher designers varied from 1 to 2.
-
HOLY COW! I figured that a company like decipher would have a whole team of at least 5 or more.